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There needs to be laws that state dividends and bonuses can only be paid when the company shows incontestable success. Under no circumstances should a company be borrowing and paying dividends at the same time and the fact that OFWAT never flagged this, they should all go to jail for colluding to defraud the government.
What? Companies absolutely should borrow and pay dividends at the same time, that totally normal corporate financing. However, companies must also be allowed to fail and cause losses to anyone foolish enough to finance them when they take too much risk.
By definition necessary services like water don't belong in the private sector since we can't allow them to fail. The mistake was not that the company was allowed to pay too many dividends (that's what companies are for). The mistake was that we entrusted this stuff to private enterprise in the first place.
The point, I think, is that it perhaps ought not to be.
Why? Are you not allowed to give gifts to your family until you pay off your mortgage? Paying dividends while using debt financing isn't inherently imprudent. I would have preferred vital services to remain in the control of the state and think the regulators have been laughably weak in allowing these companies to enfeeble themselves to the benefit of shareholders and ultimate cost to society, but demanding dividends not be paid until a company is debt free, in our current capitalist system (and any remotely similar system) is financially illiterate.
Your analogy is a little off. If I were in the slightest danger of defaulting on my mortgage, you may be assured that even my closest family would be getting handwritten free hug vouchers for christmas.
It's not about being debt free, it's about not using your debt for stupid things.
Right but if you were not in any danger of default they would think you a dick if you spent nothing on gifts. You're moving the goalposts. The statement was that no dividends should be paid while there is any debt, which as I say is a stupid one.
On the contrary, I'm putting the goalposts back where they were before you misunderstood them.
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Read the thread you're commenting on mate.
I have no objection to particular instances of imprudent dividend paying being criticised. I specifically rejected this absolute statement.