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Exploding-heads.com is another instance on Lemmy where alt-right MAGA types tend to reside. Some people on this server want us to defederate from them immediately, some people want to save defederation as a last resort. They have 104 active users (more stats below).

It seems that exploding-heads has also experienced a recent botswarm invasion. This is obviously another point in favor of defederating them, assuming you are worried about botswarms, which is currently being discussed here.

My advice to you all is please try to discuss this in a civil manner, we need not allow them to create divisive conflict inside our communities. No matter how the vote turns out, you're not going to be able to defederate from your fellow sh.itheads so be nice.

I've linked many of the previous discussions below so people who are out of the loop can get a general sense of the situation.

https://sh.itjust.works/post/216888 https://sh.itjust.works/post/225714 https://sh.itjust.works/post/281126 https://sh.itjust.works/post/410325

Lemmy.world just recently defederated them.

https://lemmy.world/post/747912

https://lemmy.world/post/577526

Although this could be considered a point in favor of defederation, it actually means even if we vote to remain federated, people have a great alternative in lemmy.world where they can still participate in our communities and simultaneously be protected from exploding-heads.

Ensuring diversity of servers is beneficial to the platform as a whole, but it is also not our responsibility to bear that burden.

TLDR, just wrap up any last points in this thread before we open the vote tomorrow. Please be civil.

EDIT: To clarify, this isn't the official vote, this is the final discussion. The vote thread will be posted tomorrow and you will only be allowed to make a single comment saying Aye or Nay.

EDIT2: Vote thread is up, this thread is now locked. Very lively discussion thread sh.itheads. Please try to be more respectful next time.

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[–] carbon_based 1 points 1 year ago

Funny how people downvote some unemotional reasoning, isn't it?

There’s room for everyone, while still giving people the right to choose where they site, and reserving the right for the people putting in their time and resources to chose who to defederate for any reason they like. If you or I don’t like it, there’s a nice list of alternatives.

While i don't really know if you answered to my comment or to some other, that last paragraph would could apply to anyone. And it's been said plenty of times, there are ways to go without abusing the defederation tool (which would lead to this same tiring debate being brought up over and again). People who don't want to see specific stuff can put it on their opt-out list, they could actually pay a programmer to implement an instance-blacklist asap, they can ask the admin of the offending instance to ban them, or they can choose a more safespace-oriented server as their home.
This campaigning is just abuse. Let's campaign for common guidelines and better tools instead.