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Progressive Leaders Warn Biden's Support for Gaza 'Slaughter' Risks Millions of Young Votes
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sure, they will all go vote for... the other guy with the exact same stance except even worse?
stupid claim
The third party (probably the Greens). Or not vote at all when they otherwise would have - that still means a lost vote for Biden. Young voters tend to be far less willing to accept the compromises imposed by first past the post voting systems.
The threat to Democrats is real.
Those people are stupid and will only make things worse for themselves.
If they do withhold votes which gets the Republican nominee elected, they’ll probably come to regret it if they have two brain cells to rub together.
People said for years to stop fucking around or we’ll lose abortion rights. Well….
Imagine people actually believing this.
Look, I’ll be fine. Even if my wife or daughter needs to travel to get an abortion, I’m more than capable of affording it.
Fuck yourselves over for all I care. I may even get a tax cut because of it.
Just don’t say we didn’t warn you.
It’s just an observation of the situation we’re in, not agreement.
Help elect the guy who wants to literally ban Muslims over the other guy who supports Israel against terrorists... because it will show the Democrats you care about Muslim rights? Opposing Arab American interests will teach Democrats to support Arab American interests? Brilliant plan.
Not a plan. It’s about principles. Contrary to belief, some people like to sleep well at night knowing they did the moral thing. If you are willing to give up your principles and accept a genocide, then those people see you no different than Trump and the MAGA fascists. { In layman’s terms: Two wrongs don’t make a right }
Assisting the greater evil to get elected is not the moral thing. It's being stupid and ignoring the reality of our political system. You want an actual genocide? Trump is your man, far more likely to instigate one.
Are you denying the genocide in Gaza? Or do you just not care? Is your need to defeat Trump more important than the 10,000+ deaths, and the future deaths that will occur? If defeating Trump and whatever future chaos he may bring is more important to you than a present genocide, I am not, nor will I ever be an ally. I won’t compromise my humanity for a socially constructed “election.” Your pragmatism isn’t logical, and is downright dangerous.
If you think Trump will care about deaths in Gaza more than Biden, you are a moron. If you care about minimizing deaths there, the right thing to do is support the viable candidate that is closest to your position. That's Biden. He at least pretends to care and supports a humanitarian cease-fire. Given Trump's stances on the middle east and his racist anti-Arab policies, I suspect he approves of more bombings.
Spreading your illogical lack of pragmatism will ensure the opposite of what you want occurs.
This speaks volumes, and you probably have no idea why.
Genocide implies intention. Israel's intention is not to eradicate Arabs or Muslims, it is defense against a hostile enemy and return of the people they kidnapped. 20% of Israeli citizens are Arab Muslim and they are not being attacked like Gaza is. Just because Israel just happens to be attacked by a belligerent enemy territory that is monoethnic does not make defending themselves genocide.
Trump, however, does target people with his racist policies specifically because they are Arab Muslim.
You do realize forcing people to vote for Biden may lead to the Streisand effect. And result in voters having such disdain for Biden and his supporters that they refuse to vote at all.
Also: Raz Segal is an associate professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Stockton University and the endowed professor in the study of modern genocide
Maybe rethink your whole process.
Forcing them? I'm pointing out that not doing so works against said people's interests. Not voting for Biden is choosing the greater evil and it will lead to the opposite of what they want. It's like refusing to buy property when playing monopoly then complaining about losing the game.
I fail to see how the Streisand effect is relevant here.
Me. You’re persuading me not to vote. And the more you whine about “interests,” the more it makes me dislike Biden. So, yeah, it applies.
Did I force you to be politically stupid by intentionally ignoring the realities of our political system? No, that's all you bud. I'm just pointing it out.
You’re not helping things here.
A-fucking-men.
They do this shit because they know they have us by the short hairs. "What are you going to do, vote for the actual fascists? You're going to vote for Mr.Corposhill bombyMcBombsalesman and like it."
Or they will vote for no one like I've seen so many do in the past. Stupid claim.