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Company that mines nickel for 'green' electric cars destroys forest in doing so. Ironic
plenty of nickel used to come from Russia but nyet anymore.
Ah yes. Nickel is only used for electric cars. Right. Gotcha.
Ah yes. This is how the company apparently justifies it. Right in the article.
Marketing: We need to defend this - what's something people are really excited about?
Engineer: Stainless steel; you can't make a good stainless without nickel
Salesman: Oooh - I know! How about nickels? Everybody loves nickels and their worth 5 cents each!
Engineer:
Marketing:
Intern: You know, they use nickel in battery packs for electric cars
Marketing: Oh, right - everybody likes electric cars. Green and vroom-vroom, I love it!
Engineer: You know that electric cars don't go vroom-vroom, right?
Marketing: I'm going with electric cars, it's a feel-good use people will get behind.
There's no sensible argument for the continuation of gasoline cars. Spills are much worse to the environment and the constant dumping of CO2 is literally causing millions of acres to burn.
Fuck off
You can be mad at both, that was always allowed
NO! I must side with my political party on all topics! Otherwise I risk having a thought occur.
I'm against oil propaganda, it has nothing to do with any political party. Gas companies are not your friend.
Being mad at both only helps the oil barons. Maybe we can wait until we aren't setting off a new feedback loop every month before trying to make cars out of sunlight.
Resource extraction and vehicles are going to be a part of our society for a long time. I hate cars but anyone saying "green" ev vehicle with those quotes is the enemy.
Well no, our future is public transport, if we don't kill ourselves first, which we will.
Yes, 100%. But switching to ev right now is literally how we don't kill ourselves first.
By using gas and coal energy to mine lithium and nickel? Destroying millions of acres of forest in the process and contaminating God knows how much land and water?
Like I said, we can concentrate on making cars out of sunshine after we aren't pumping death into the atmosphere.
Normal cars take resources as well to build and keep polluting non stop after they are built. Even worse, the resources they need just to run are fucking terrible for the environment to extract and use, not to mention the spills. There's no contest, gas is always worse.
We don't have time to transition to only public transport while keeping our dependence on oil.
It's either EVs now and a public transport future, or gas induced suicide.
Exactly.
Whats funny is that is also a big oil talking point. Either climate change doesn't exist and EVs are stupid, or climate change does exist but it's too late so it doesn't matter what we drive. You are being manipulated into having no hopes so the profits keep rolling in, nice.
I think cars in general are bad. I think fossil fuel executives should be shot. I don't think you know my opinions as well as you think you do lol.
This seems to be in line with my thinking, I'm just trying not to play into their hand.
No dude, I totally get it. Not much you can do except try and explain it to as many people as you can before you become exhausted. Plant as many trees as you can in the mean time and vote green party. Keep up the good fight.