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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s just a war about a magical sky God, and his magical holy land

Really?

You have a population of Palestinians living their lives -religion irrelevant, until the British went "yeah, sure you can have a patch of land there - it's their land but we 'own' it and what we say goes".

Then Israel had a war and illegally claimed vast stretches of land that doesn't belong to them to this day, and keeps on killing the remaining population that does live there and settling on the land that remains.

You could remove religion from the entirely. It's the fact that for almost 100 years, the Palestinian people have had invaders illegally settle on their land and be unable to repel them as they've got the backing and support of the major world powers to let them commit genocide. Trivialising it in the way you have done helps no one because it masks important history behind "religion bad".

You kill people constantly with the intent of eliminating them and you're going to create a rebellious force from that population. Are they terrorists? In the eyes of the Palestinians, they're most likely just brothers and sons who have lost their family in their youth, denied education and a chance at childhood and have grown up around war and are convinced their action is the only way to stop it. To us, sure, they're terrorists. But I doubt anyone 'sheltering' Hamas is doing so out of fear and likely just sheltering family.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Whilst the British were in control, the partition plan was very much an international idea, and the British were long gone by the time of the founding of the Israeli state.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That illegal land grab is only important because it’s “holy.” Don’t pretend this is about anything else. How about they just stop fighting and keep the land they have?