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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

but I love that he created the market for electric cars

This is like saying OJ Simpson invented Smuckers Uncrustables so he's not all bad...

Firstly, it's not true.

Secondly, even if it was true, it doesn't amount to enough to celebrate him.

Because putting peanut butter and jelly in a sandwich was already a thing that was popular. It just became worse for the environment and more expensive for consumers by individuall packaging them and requiring them to be frozen.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is true. Tesla paved the way.

Who said celebrate him. I said I’m glad he did it.

I get you have a binary view of the world. As you mature you may outgrow that but the world is wildly complex.

We wouldn’t have modern electric cars without musk. It took someone willing to take the risk and the big 3 weren’t doing it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow...

I mean I was going off of actual facts that you were wrong...

But "it is true" completely changed my mind, without Musk buying a company that already existed, we never would have gotten EVs!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Who had a large scale consumer product before Tesla?

Your claim he didn’t create the market. Who had the market before Tesla? Who else had large scale production before Tesla ?

Who has the largest market share?

Let’s see you prove your claim.

Tesla would have folded if Elon was not part of it. People only started to take notice after the success of Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your claim he didn’t create the market

No, you said Tesla created the market...

I said that was false, now your demanding I prove your wrong because you can't prove your opinion is facts.

That's not how this is supposed to work...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Yes, I am asking you to back up your claim. Who created the market if it wasn't Tesla? That isn't my opinion. That is well well-documented fact.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/061915/story-behind-teslas-success.asp

Tesla’s release positioned it as one of the few successful independent automakers and a pioneer in the electric car market.

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-can-be-thanked-creating-a-growing-ev-market-2020-10

If you think the growing electric-car market would exist without Tesla, think again

You seem to be the only person who thinks otherwise.