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[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not defending musk. So tired of that qualifier in this thread.

The prius is not an EV it's a hybrid and nobody thought they were cool. Even tree huggers like me. Tesla made electric cars cool until everyone found out how poorly they were assembled. Then the other manufacturers, seeing that electric cars could be profitable, started tooling their assembly lines. You have your history completely backwards.

The new Prius Prime is cool af in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m not defending musk. So tired of that qualifier in this thread.

did not say you were.

The prius is not an EV it’s a hybrid and nobody thought they were cool.

it sold incredibly well and proved that there was a market, and yes it was a hybrid as the technology wasn't there. do tesla get kudos for waiting for battery technology now?

You have your history completely backwards.

do you think that the prius came out after a tesla? you need to explain this one.

The new Prius Prime is cool af in my opinion.

it doesn't matter what you find personally cool for what it's worth, then or now.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If I didn't put that qualifier there would be comments talking shit about musk. Read the rest of this comment section and it's clear as day.

The prius did not sell incredibly well. That is completely false. It sold well enough to be profitable but even a standard Corolla sold more year after year. It took a decade or more before any other serious options existed.

The previous paragraph covers your next question. You have your history wrong about how well the Prius sold and how long until EV's became desirable.

A better wording would have been that the new Prius is more desirable than the previous generations. Which reinforces the previous Prius not "being cool."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The prius did not sell incredibly well. That is completely false. It sold well enough to be profitable but even a standard Corolla sold more year after year.

.... uh, yes. the traditional fossil fuel based card sold better than a car selling to a new market. do you want to compare it to, oh i don't know, a ford focus too? are you trying to talk about the hybrid version that came out in the 2010's like 15 years after the prius?

if you want to make the argument that the prius wasn't instrumental in proving the EV market, good luck. you won't find much backing with these talking points.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because there was nothing else to compare it to at the time. It was the first viable hybrid, we agree on that. The part that I'm having a hard time explaining is that it was not hugely successful and not the motivation for all current EV's. It wasn't even a plug-in hybrid until 2012. That is 9 years AFTER Tesla.

Major manufactures did not attempt EVs until Tesla made a killing on them. Most of them did not even make serious attempts at hybrids until the mid 2000's.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because there was nothing else to compare it to at the time.

grab this thread, you can maybe start to understand how they were instrumental in creating and proving the EV market that Tesla would eventually capitalise on top of

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I understand your argument, I just don't think it is right.

The Prius never motivated other car manufactures to make EVs. Seriously, tooling the assembly lines did not begin until after Tesla.

Why did it take a decade to go from Prius to Tesla, but a only a few years after Tesla for other manufactures to start seriously producing hybrids and EVs?