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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (9 children)

What I hate with this is that is defines that the army itself is good or bad. But in reality it is what it is used for. If its actually used for defence, then it's very honorable. When it's used as a tool to exploit resources to the rich, (aka generally being the aggressor), it's not.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (10 children)

joining the army in the Imperial core will always be bad and make the troop/vet complicit in the countless deaths and destruction

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (12 children)

It should, considering that you're being willfully ignorant at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Countries that are doing the marxist definition of imperialism basically.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

You best start believing in Imperial cores... you're in one!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Can you explain why some of the nordic countries, i.e. Norway, Sweden, Denmark are part of the imperial core while Finland, Iceland, Greenland are not? I can put color on a white map too, doesn't mean it portrays a real issue adequately. Also wtf, why is Portugal not part of the imperial core?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even simpler than that. People trying to slot sex work/army/any job into “good/bad” columns aren’t worth your attention.

Except for health insurance CEOs, those definitely bad.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cops and troops are bad. You might even say All of them AB

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

All Cops Are Bad

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (29 children)

Yeah peaceful militaries like Korea's or China's or Cuba's are ok. Anyone joining the US military though if just in it for the war crimes.

[–] Habahnow 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel your answer lacks any sort of nuance. People join the military for financial reasons as well. Broke as fuck and need somewhere to stay, get food and possibly get an education or career? Military. Almost doesn't matter your background, you can probably get in and stay as much as you like. The US system makes the military a good back up option for the poor. I don't like how the US uses our military, but i also understand that those in there aren't necessarily happy with their options either. If there existed a alternative system like the military (work, pay, food, housing, education, career), people would probably join that over risking dying or having to kill people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That is the issue with hating the ~~troops~~ proles doing the fighting. Sometimes they might commit war crimes, but usually there is someone of a higher social strata coercing them into the role, which although doesn't relieve them of responsibility, is important context.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, even for defence. Your settling, an argument, the rich and powerful people above you are having. You're settling it with your life.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Lol can't think of a single western country that's had an "honorable" war post 1945. The US army is unequivocally bad

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