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Amazon tells managers they can now fire employees who won't come into the office 3 times a week::Amazon shared new guidelines that give managers a template for terminating employees over RTO.

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[–] bogdugg 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is a tangent, but you ever think about how arbitrary the week structure is? Like, if weeks were 6 or 8 days long, it would be a big shift in work-life balance regardless of how you split the days up. But thousands of years ago we decided on 7 and it just kind of stuck.

Assuming 8 hour days, here are some different splits for on and off:

  • 3 on 1 off: working 25% of the time
  • 5 on, 2 off: working 23.8% of the time
  • 4 on, 2 off: working 22.2% of the time
  • 5 on 3 off: working 20.8% of the time
  • 4 on 3 off: working 19.0% of the time
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is, perhaps naively, assuming that employers wouldn't just increase the number of days you're working. Weeks are now 10 days long, and you work for 7 of them.

[–] bogdugg 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I tried to pick ratios that wouldn't cause riots in the streets, haha. Interestingly, 7-3 is still less work overall than the current standard 5-2. I could get behind a 3-1-4-2 system.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not an actual 4 day work week, but I've been working 4 tens in the format of 1-1-3-2, and it's been great. Turns out Monday isn't all that bad, when you have another day off immediately after

[–] Ookami38 1 points 1 year ago

I've been doing 2-1-2-2 personally. It's fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I got a 4 ten hour day schedule with 3 days off and I MUCH prefer it over 5 eight hour days. Having a whole extra day off easily makes up for working ten hours IMO.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I used to have a rolling 4 ten week, so Monday off one week then Tuesday the following etc. The best part was the week you have Friday the next you have Monday so it's a 4 day weekend every month. But the job was so fucking boring and they'd still come around every day 9 hours into the shift asking if you wanted to do 2 hours overtime... So 4 days was basically work, go home, shower, eat, sleep repeat. I personally need some wind down time each day but I can definitely see how some people would like this setup

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I had the option for 4x10 and turned that down. I'm barely useful after 8 hours. I can't imagine 2 extra hours a day.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

7 isn't random. A lunar cycle (ever wondered where the word month comes from - the moon of course) is 28 days. Aka exactly 4 weeks.

[–] bogdugg 2 points 1 year ago

The reasoning behind a specific system may not be arbitrary, but why is one system better than another? People have also used 8 day systems, and 10 day systems. It would seem to me that biggest reason it is still in use today is "it's the way we've always done it". The inertia of the 7-day system makes change very hard, though there have been attempts over the last few centuries by both France and the Soviet Union. So, even if you could scientifically prove that some other system would be more productive, you would have a very hard time implementing it.

The idea that I will work a few percentage points more or less over my life, as a direct result of the phases of the moon, is, while perhaps technically correct, a fundamentally silly reason.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

It was because they saw 7 objects in the sky.