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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

That we should go back to knowingly destroying the ozone layer because the lingering effects of our previous attempts at destroying it haven’t gotten completely better yet and that has had bad effects on air conditioning. Won’t anyone think of the poor deprived people forced to sit in their cars that are a sweltering 70 degrees Fahrenheit?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My point is consumers are squeezed to hell while the industrial sector is happily polluting the planet.

My car headlights are no less than $1k and not serviceable. Meaning if a bulb is out then I need to pay $1k and throw away a perfectly functioning plastic.

I did my homework before buying a car and almost all reliable manufacturers, including Toyota, is doing the same thing.

Climate activists should focus on these corps first.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You realize that banning CFC’s did have massive implications on industry right? Most CFC use was industrial. This comment really just shows that you’re clueless on the history of this issue. Consumer air conditioning was far from the only casualty. If we had not banned CFC’s then the ozone layer would be in an absolutely dire state today.

The Montreal Protocol is literally proof that if international governments wanted to they could come together and stop industry from destroying the planet, and you think we should roll that back for air conditioning? Give me a fucking break dude.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To clarify, I am not talking about r12 refrigerant vs r134.

When I say older cooling system / model i mean pre 2017 air compressor.

The new ones, 2017 and onwards, are designed for mileage per gallon.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I see. That is an entirely separate discussion. Whenever you bring up air conditioning on a thread about the ozone layer everyone is going to assume you’re talking about the refrigerants.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You’re right.

I edited my comment.