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Top Apple analyst says MacBook demand has fallen 'significantly'::A top Apple analyst said Wednesday that shipments for MacBook computers will decline around 30% year over year.

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[–] captain_aggravated 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I see the ARM Apple machines as less valuable than the Intel ones.

Macbooks from circa 2007 to recently were PC-compatible machines, you could run Windows or a standard version of Linux on them. They were often well-built, and since Apple kept to a fairly limited subset of hardware it was easy to support them.

The M1 and M2 machines cannot run Windows and are pretty incompetent at running Linux, so if your hobby or job requires either of those platforms Apple no longer offers that value to customers.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I'm running Windows ARM just fine with parallels on my M1 MBP. Haven't had any issues, even weird legacy software that needs serial drivers works fine. MS did a great job with the ARM version of Windows.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

All the higher ups at work used to run macbooks mostly because they were built well and looked good. But they ran windows because we don't make any software for Mac. An M1 is useless to them (our software is not compatible with parallels as the 3d support just isn't good enough)

It's not even that unusual based on the support queries we get.. still get the occasional salesman who has 'upgraded' to an M1 and has to be given the bad news.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, sure, although I think the people who need to do that are a pretty small niche. But you could also just run Parallels and call it a day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will say, my one concern for my 15" Air is the shelf life is currently limited to whatever Apple decides it to be. With my previous Intel MacBooks, I could string a few extra years out of them with Opencore, but as it stands that won't be an option when Apple drop OS support for my M2. The same is true of those Intel machines though; what will happen to them once macOS no longer supports non AS hardware?

Perhaps by then, the devs behind Opencore will have figured out how to get AS software working on Intel hardware, and will have cracked being able to run the latest macOS on unsupported M1/2 chips, but we'll have to wait and see.

All that said, my Air is only a few months old, and should reasonably expect to see updates for a good 5/6 years, by which time Asahi Linux ought to be a rock solid alternative if needs be.

[–] captain_aggravated 2 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile I've got a 4th gen Intel Dell sitting behind me that turns ten next June, and it will likely be supported by Linux Mint for several more decades.