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basically Newpipe but only source available, not really free software or open source, so they are restricting your freedoms.
Just keep using Newpipe instead.
It is open source but you can't publish modified code (this is to ensure there will be no malicious forks like there was with newpipe)
plus you missed the entire point:
It's an app that allows you to watch the same creators across many platforms
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That’s not the problem. The question is, stopping actors that put ads and paywalls behind modified source, which technically isn’t malicious, it’s just being a jerk and this licensing makes it much easier to take down. Ofc, if he actually wanted it to be open source, he’d just force all derivatives to be non commercial.
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Yeah... You're not going to stop any of that without war.
Oh yeah, because someone who wants to do that is going to see that and think oh no, he doesn't want us to, guess we shouldn't
That’s not the point. The point is takedown actions being a lot easier especially if one of the idiots tries to argue against
The point is, that anyone who tries to make money by ad-bombing the app and adding it to the playstore will be punished. If you post your virus-infected fork in the far-behind edge of internet-nowhere Louis would not care about that. Otherwise: why do you not ask him yourself if you want to post your own fork and under which conditions that should be possible. If you ride principles, then develop your own app that is much much better and FOSS than grayjay. Nobody stops you.
I mean, at least in this case he can take down fake copies from the most popular app stores. That mitigates the reach of malicious clones a lot.
Rossman is an idiot, that's how. Luckily he's a useful idiot in most cases.
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I commented earlier that if after a year of development they "haven't figured out" the license, they're just poaching the open source reputation until they can milk it later on. I would be shocked to find out this temporary license goes the other way and goes GPL or MIT.
The thing with Rossman is that he's very pro consumer, but also very pro business. it seems his analysis refuses to go any deeper than that. You can hear the cogs of dissonance churning every so often when he comes up with some of his more garbage takes.
Wow, this is a high quality comment.
I guess it's understandable to be concerned about licensing when putting money and work into a project like this, but I still hope they change their mind.
"open source" to enshittification pipeline license
Your avatar is not ironic, is it?
It does them very poorly
The term "open source" generally refers to the definition by the Open Source Initiative.
https://opensource.org/osd/
Not allowing publishing of modified source code is in violation with the criteria of open source.
FLOSS or die
Whew
that is not open source. That is source available.
because we all know that license agreements are a line that trojan distributors will not cross. Not malware distribution, not hacking laws, but copyright infringement. They'd never do that at all.
I believe it would be significantly easier to submit a takedown request for copyright issues, compared to reporting an app for being malicious.
That's not the case at all. These kind of Trojan operations are fly-by-night setups, and have the advantage of being able to react far faster than the official Devs. By the time you as the dev even know of the app's existence, they've already infected hundreds. And when you do get round to filing a takedown notice, they'll be back up the next day under a different name.
Even Nintendo can't get copyright infringing shit off Play Store in any fast capacity. Heck, Google will even run ads for people blatantly breaking copyright laws.
Edit: and that's before considering that Google won't let them onto play store and being only source available excludes them from eligibility for official F-Droid repos. They're going to have an absolute bitch of a time dealing with fakes and Trojans, even if they didn't release the source code at all
...so it's newpipe.
You can't search multiple platforms at once with newpipe. This is a bigger thing that you think.
Also it has recommendations
I could not find a link to the source on the website 🤔 do you know where the source is?
Edit: https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay
I don't believe newpipe has a way to cast so that's what I'm interested in here
If you watch the video, Louis explains why they only made it source available
Have you used it? It's like NewPipe except that it's better in almost every way. The ONLY downside is that it's just old-fashioned open source instead of FOSS.
It's not open source
Incorrect. People have been calling random software open source since the 80s, because it's a very vague term. The new definition that you think is gospel wasn't invented until the OSI was formed in '98.
"open source" is a self explanatory phrase. The source code is open, therefore it's open source.