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[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Bad physics. Totally pulls me out of immersion.

No, Captain America cannot lean back and hold a helicopter that is lifting off. It doesn't matter how strong he is - he will be lifted once there is enough force generated from the propellers. Basically anything Batman does that involves gravity in the Nolan films is similar.

The magic I can get behind. The mutant stuff or dragons or even time travel in superhero movies doesn't bother me. It's the lack of sensible mechanics on an alleged Earth that I'm bothered by.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Maybe Captain America's real power is that he is really heavy.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

Yay! I’m a superhero!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Variable density would be a really convenient (but weird) super power

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Only way to explain Thor hammer that can't be lifted by others

[–] mindbleach 1 points 10 months ago

Genuinely how wudan seems to work in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. Practitioners don't leap at super-speed or generate impossible force - they just float. And in several fights, a character trying to flee by leaping away gets stopped by a casual snag on their clothing.

... I might have to go watch that again.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I get your point, but I will say the Captain America scene isn't completely out of the realm of possibility. Cap weighs the helicopter down for a few seconds, and grabs a support beam for the helipad as soon as he can. If Cap can keep a grip on both the beam and the helicopter, then the propellers will only lift him if either Cap or the support beams break.

Of course, whether he should have had that much effect on the helicopter for those first few seconds is another matter entirely and I'm not enough of a physicist to make that call.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It's those first seconds I am referring to. The pole does make more sense to me. Also not a physicist, but it irks me just the same.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Ant man surfing through pressurized water pipes. Would have been a lot more interesting and realistic as a scuba dive.

[–] JohnDClay 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If the railing was strong enough, seems possible.

Cap curling a helli

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes! This seems like the right movie. For a few seconds before he grabs the pole, he does just lean back, right? That is the part that concerns me the most. At least this in the image seems doable if somebody is cap strong and angry.

[–] JohnDClay 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think he's able to stop it by just leaning, I thought it was pulling him along.

Edit: yeah, doesn't look like he's stopped it till he grabs into the railing. https://youtu.be/1ccey7IJLCM

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

He isn't heavy enough to make that much of a difference before he grabs the ledge, is he? If the helicopter can manage lift, his 200 lbs shouldn't make that much difference. It's the part before he grabs the ledge that bothers me in this clip

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] mindbleach 1 points 10 months ago

Do people still whine about that movie because they don't know how ropes work?