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https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-presents-evidence-misfired-gazan-rocket-caused-hospital-blast-slams-hamas-lies/
A photo outside the hospital shows some scorched concrete and burnt cars, but no crater or anything you'd really expect from a military bomb. The IDF also supplied intercepted audio of Hamas fighters discussing a botched missile launch:
There is also evidence that there was a barrage of rockets fired at around the same time.
Naturally this is from the IDF, who aren't unbiased. Speaking only for myself though, I really can't possibly imagine what Israel would stand to gain from doing this.
More dead Palestinians.
You can't really pretend that's not one of their goals when they're always killing as many as possible.
If that was their goal, they could depopulate the Gaza Strip in an hour. It's clearly not the objective, even if they're not prioritizing minimizing casualties as much as they should.
Truly, ask yourself what Israel would do if its true aim was "killing as many as possible". I'm genuine asking you, what do you think they would do if that was the intent, and are they doing those things?
Most genocide expert agrees the modern genocides look nothing like the past ones, and particularly say there will not likely be another genocide like the Holocaust because we literally had a world war and a convention in Geneva about it. If you marker for purposeful ethnic cleansing is that it has to look like the holocaust, you're going to miss several genocides. If you can't imagine why Israel would attempt to hide a motive like 'we want to kill Palestinians because they are Palestinians' though both words and actions then I don't know what else to say.
They would kill as many as they could within the limitations of having to appear they aren't the aggressor. They are fully dependent on their international reputation.
You cannot claim this is something they care about while also claiming that they bombed a hospital for the sole purpose of killing civilians.
But we can't prove they did, can we? There's just enough deniability to squeeze through politically. And that's all they need. Apparently.
Yes Israel fired a rocket from northern Gaza and caused it to prematurely explode over the hospital to kill Palestinians but also keep plausible deniability
Give me a fucking break lmao
You've accounted for one bomb. Only 5999 (and climbing) left to prove your point.
And if there were no repercussions, they absolutely would.
But much to their obvious resentment, they need to play the international politics game. If they don't, they'll find their economy decimated in much the same way a Russia has. And when the arms deals dry up, they could easily end up on the receiving end, given their unpopularity with their neighbours.
I would keep taking inch after inch, waiting for any excuse to retaliate, and then retaliate as violently and indiscrimately as possible.
So as a purely hypothetical example, maybe I'd constantly encroach on their borders and bulldoze their homes.
Maybe I'd imprison and execute children for throwing rocks.
Maybe when a terrorist cell crossed the border and killed (a fraction as many) civilians, I'd drop an absurd number of bombs on their city, beyond what could possibly be targeting actual combatants, killing scores of civilians and levelling buildings.
Purely hypothetically of course.
Haha, really good source, read their blogs and you can see why and how they're trying to shift the narrative.
As a European, I don't believe anything the US says anymore. Not after decades of deception and disinformation from them.
Publisher of a claim has no relevance to whether the claim is true or not. A source being biased does not mean that everything they say is false.
Here's the BBC, if you like them better.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67144061
And the cause of the tragedy is this:
I agree that we don't know for sure yet. but I don't think it can be denied that a plausible story is that a failed rocket crashed into this courtyard that had hundreds of people gathered in it, igniting the rest of the fuel and causing a large explosion.
Or maybe the IDF really did decide to just bomb a hospital courtyard. That's plausible, though seems unlikely to me, personally.
I truly believe Israel did the hit, and the narrative is being shifted around now because they knew they went too far and international backlash might not be in their favour. We'll find out eventually.
It's not about plausibility anymore, they want to turn Gaza into a parking lot, these people are talking about mowing the grass every few years so that explains why the majority of Palestinians is underage.
But you're right, I might be biased. Both sides have extremist that are willing to do anything for their cause, but one side has been pushed to the brink with no way out. I'm really not surprised this breeds terrorists/freedom fighters who'd rather die than live like a dog.
I can only think about the civilians on both sides that died. Children are dying and the next generation of terrorists/freedom fighters/orthodox extremists are being made right as we speak. This cycle of violence has no end.
And nobody even mentions the hostages anymore. It's kids paying the price while old white men talk and talk.
I'm really emotional so not a good place to speak from, and will be reading and following less news the coming weeks, just for my mental health. I don't want to live in this world anymore.
The barrage of rockets were launched around half an hour after the hospital blast according to the video footage.
Israel would have claimed it a military target and use that excuse. They have no reason to deny the bombing.
They have admitted to other bombings in the past such as ambulances because they were valid military targets.
I see no reason for Israel to lie about this as they have public support right now.
In 2014 they bombed a hospital and blamed Hamas. They didn't say it was a legitimate military target, they said Hamas did it. So historically your claim is untrue.
You have a cite? This is all I could find and Israel said they did it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna161086
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/politics/2014/07/gaza-shifa-hospital-bombing
https://www.newsweek.com/mysterious-case-gazas-al-shifa-hospital-262086
Same conflict but different hospital.
Thank. I’ll read through those.
No they don’t but they did downvote you for sharing something they didn’t like lol
https://www.newsweek.com/mysterious-case-gazas-al-shifa-hospital-262086 OK Buddy. They even used the same exact excuse, saying it was "gaza terrorists" instead of naming Hamas directly. But continue to talk shit with no sources of your own.
Normally Israel just says they were taking fire or munitions were being there, etc.
It’s why they normally just say, yep we did it. It’s not a violation of the rules of war to bomb military targets even if it’s a hospital.
It looks bad but it isn’t a violation.
Right now the world is on the side of Israel. So they’re more like to say look at Hamas. They’re using the hospital to attack us and the world would say we get it.
Why I suspect a failed Hamas attack.