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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What Hamas did was horrible, a terrorist attack and atrocity for sure, but we're watching an actual genocide and half of the world is cheering it on. I feel like I'm talking crazy pills. What the fuck is wrong with people and what can we do to stop this?!?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

What else was Hamas supposed to do? In your opinion, what options do they have?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

They should’ve peacefully marched and protested!

…. Like they did in 2018 and got brutally shot down by the dozens of thousands, with thousands of dead and more than 10 times that maimed for life with their knees destroyed, intentionally, by IDF soldiers as they laughed? When they marched peacefully towards the walls and barriers, making their concerns heard in protests and absolutely nothing got better and no one cared?

In any case, we all know everything we’ve ever achieved was done through peaceful protest. Like the civil rights movement! MLK made some speeches and the white bourgeoisie felt bad and changed all the laws.

Don’t look into how MLK was murdered and there was mass protest and revolt with plenty of violence before any changes ever happened…

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Don’t you see! You can challenge your oppressors with peace and forgiveness!

Dorky ass motherfuckers who wouldn’t last a single day under the Israeli foot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is a bullshit excuse for violence against innocent bystanders. You can (and Israel supporters DO) apply this exact same argument to Israel: "And what exactly SHOULD they do about HAMAS, Mr. Smarty-pants, just let terrorists run pel mel, unpunished?"

I don't have an affirmative answer; if I did I'd be happy to collect my Nobel peace prize. What I do have is the understanding that "but you just don't understand, it's justified when WE do it" is a giant crock of shit, and it's the lie that every oppressor through the ages (including Israel) has told themselves.

Edit: Other countries need to step up their game. It's plain to see what's happening in Palestine, even with the internet and electricity blackouts imposed there, so one can only imagine how much worse it really is. The US and others need to step up and denounce this shit, tell Israel to go to the bargaining table for real or they're off the teat for good.

[–] JohnDClay 1 points 1 year ago

Hamas is built on violence as the answer. They took over from the more pro-negotiation fatah party in 2006. So Hamas isn't really built to do anything except violence.

Here's a great overview with more info, it seems pretty objective. https://youtu.be/kttN_6qVQg8