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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

If nothing else, this terrible unnecessary war has shown the West's cognitive dissonance.

Hardcore right wing people generally hate Jewish people, unless the Jewish people are fighting Muslim people, then it's "Jewish people have the right to self-determination!"

People on the left generally do not hate any specific ethnic group, however, we have a long history of criticizing Israel for their apartheid. Being met with the furor of everyone else calling us anti-semites is nothing new, but never has it come so forcefully from so many people all at once.

Moderates in the center aren't speaking out at all for fear of being called anti-semitic, maintaining international relations with a nuclear power, and secretly hoping that this takes attention away from the climate crisis so we can keep going business as usual in favor of the ruling class.

More important than the cognitive dissonance though, is the fact that everyone in the West believes their opinion is the best and will solve everything.

[–] bernieecclestoned 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, after watching the siege of Mariupol and the destruction of civilian infrastructure by Putin, it's kinda hard to defend the same actions, whatever the provocation, by Bibi

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Lmfao if Putin did the same thing he'd be couped. The Russo-Ukrainian war is a land grab, not an attempt to bomb the ethnically-Russian dominant civilians in Ukraine's south and east.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anti-semitic my ass. I know jewish people that are openly open about their retarded leaders.

Jewish people out of all people should understand why genocide is not acceptable. A bunch of old power hungry people are responsible for hundreds of thousands of people being killed or displaced. That's what God wants, amiright?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If it was genocide, why warn the people and offer humanitarian aid in the south of Gaza? Why no attacks on the Westbank? Why did they wait until Hamas attacked (again)? Why were Palestinians part of the population in Israel?

Israel certainly doesn't respect the border to Palestinian land, but to call it genocide sounds a lot like a propaganda tool. Especially when it comes from people who ignore that Palestinians and especially the Hamas and other extremist groups in Palestine declared they want a genocide on all Jews. And this even predates the separation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You are also called and Islamophobe if you aren't taking a stand against all of Israel in this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's fine.. when Russia does landgrabs and "settles" in parts of Ukraine it's called ethnic cleansing, genocide, illegal war, yada yada.

When Israel does it it's just a right to self determination and if you disagree with that then you must be an antisemite nazi.