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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Agreed on most points. I'm not sure how a war in Israel helps Putin in Ukraine though. If you assume support for Israel means less support for Ukraine then sure, but I don't think it's that black and white. If there's one thing Americans love to spend money on it's war and there is plenty of cash to go around.

Personally I'd rather give all the aid Ukraine needs and let Israel sort out their own business. The two situations aren't really comparable both in terms of the actors involved or the reasons the two conflicts began. Putin and Hamas do both represent evil organizations but if I had to pick which one to deal with I'd pick Putin every time. That's partly for personal reasons but I also think it would do more good for the world as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Very true. The US could sustain full operations in both theaters without breaking a sweat. Both of those theaters are tiny compared to the US military industrial complex and it's force projection.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If there's one thing Americans love to spend money on it's war

It's not spending, it is investing.

Regards, The Military Industrial Complex

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed on most points. I’m not sure how a war in Israel helps Putin in Ukraine though. If you assume support for Israel means less support for Ukraine then sure,

Israel has been a fairly large supporter of Ukraine in terms of equipment and ammunition and such. before this happened, I remembered reading something about them helping build their own Iron Dome system, for example. (though, I'm not sure how effective such a system would by. Israel has about 8 thousand square miles to it... Ukraine a couple hundred thousand.)

Also, if you assume war materials are finite resources... Israel is going to be less likely to share if they have an active war on their own home turf.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Israel has been a fairly large supporter of Ukraine in terms of equipment and ammunition and such.

Can I ask where you read this? That seems blatantly untrue.

https://kyivindependent.com/on-support-for-ukraine-israel-performs-precarious-balancing-act-between-security-interests/

Isreal's lack of overt support to Ukraine has been a ongoing issiue from early on of the 2022 invasion. Western nations were also asking Isreal to help and they still refused.

Also, if you assume war materials are finite resources... Israel is going to be less likely to share if they have an active war on their own home turf.

Well the Isrealis are almost out of certain types of ammo and needed the Americans to drop them literal tons to keep the fighting going.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-state-department-39b9e7f15334ff756f022704f9516867

The Americans are the ones supplying both Ukraine and Isreal, Isreal had the chance to help supply Ukraine before but that chance is out the window now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hamas doesn't have nukes and their incursion into Israel lasted hours. The magnitude of difference in threat cannot be overstated.