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So I'm a huge fan of The Smiths...
I feel for you. My first concert was a Morrissey one. After finding out about his support for For Britain, I’m not supporting him anymore. Yet he still has his defenders…
What does it mean “defenders.” Am I a defender if I’ll still go to a concert? Morrissey didn’t start saying stupid things yesterday, he was always stupid. Reading his autobiography which I have done but don’t recommend to others reveals he’s always been a pretentious weirdo without the goods to back it up, expect the musical talent.
There's being pretentious and stupid, and then there's being a full on racist and hatemonger. The latter wasn't apparent until more recently.
Bengali in platforms…
He’s always had the race stances of a white British man of his age. You just weren’t paying attention.
Possibly. And had that one song remained the only indication of his mindset, I would still, possibly, be listening to his music. But it didn't, and here we are.
But most of his music is not racist at all. In fact that’s probably that one song. Most of his other stuff is about being a weird middle aged gay man.
He has only been middle aged for less than half his career, depending on your definition of the term, and he has at various stages of his life described himself as bisexual, asexual, celibate, 'humasexual' and explicitly 'not a homosexual', but besides that: Yes. Which illustrates why his various -isms haven't been obvious until more recently.
Spiritually he’s always been middle aged and gay.
Nevertheless, despite some of his loathsome views I remain a fan of the music, since the music itself is not loathsome.
Good for you if that's what you think. Meanwhile, I have no trouble finding other artists more worthy of my money and attention.
Yeah, Morrissey is a dick for sure. Such a shame as I love a lot of The Smiths and his other work.
it was hilarious how he got shit on for waving the union jack and then 2 years later its everywhere and every big brit band has one, like oasis and blur