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Finland ranked seventh in the world in OECD's student assessment chart in 2018, well above the UK and the United States, where there is a mix of private and state education

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dunno, I live in Brazil, I'm used to things not working. Getting from here to what they have in Finland is unlikely

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For better or worse, I get the impression that an increase in social spending isn't something you'll need to worry about under the Bolsonaro government.

The problem with this solution in Brazil isn't the solution itself - it's the fact that you have an austerity-focused right-wing government that wants such investment to fail so that they can kill it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, Bolsonaro is gone, now we have Lula, moving from the extreme right to the extreme left. He wouldn't kill public education, just intensify the communist propaganda that already happens there

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My mistake. This policy is socdem stuff though, so leaning in the general direction of communism, and it's been shown to improve educational outcomes better and more equitably than just about any solution out there while massively improving social mobility, and by extension, the concept of meritocracy.

If a government has no interest in rolling this out properly or ability to do so for whatever reason, of course it'll fail - but that's not so much a failure of the policy - it's a failure of the government. If they're unwilling or unable to roll out good policy, I think it's worth asking why.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Government doing everything works better when the government has enough money for it, our taxes, with an already high tax burden, makes about 100 usd for person/month IIRC. There is no policy that will work around that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah - I mean solving for broader governmental failure in a country I didn't understand well is probably a little beyond the scope of this conversation - that's a far broader issue that negatively impacts this solution, but really isn't a reflection on its efficacy. Seems like there's little changing that situation without broader structural change.

Whatever the situation though, I hope it improves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The trade-offs probably aren't the same for developed and 3rd world countries. I want the free public schools to be as good as they can and have the private ones too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

While this is almost certainly true, as I said, I'm concerned having a paid "out" of the public system not only divests the wealthy's interests from having a strong public system - it pushes them in the opposite direction, as they've now got to help pay for a public system that they see no benefit from, which will produce kids that will be competing with theirs for jobs, etc.

Considering the disproportionate political power that comes with wealth, I think this is inviting failure.