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I see a lot of recommendations for various services and products which are respect privacy, but I don't think I have seen any discussion around cell phone carriers (service providers). I am aware of some of the advantages of using VOIP as a phone service. However, if VOIP is not desired, what are good options for an US phone carrier which provides a physical SIM or eSIM?

I am guessing I have not seen this discussed because phone calls and SMS texts come with inherent insecurities and can always be associated to your phone number. However, I would assume some carriers sell users data more heavily than others. If anyone knows some recommendations, or can explain what to look for, many thanks.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I don't have anything particularly useful to your point, but in the US text messages (edit for clarity: SMS messages) are considered public record and nothing is needed to snoop around in them. Call records and recordings at least require a warrant.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's interesting, wow.

I don't want to imagine the reactions from people who think they're having a "private" green bubble conversation, only to realise it's a public record ๐Ÿ˜ณ

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If it's not e2e then even if not public it can be purchased with no notification as well.

[โ€“] blackberries33 3 points 1 year ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The term "public record" usually refers to records that a government is required to maintain and make accessible to the public. In most states, I believe SMS messages sent by government employees while conducting official business are considered in-scope (though there may be other laws that make certain messages private).

As far as whether your SMS messages can be accessed by law enforcement without a warrant, it gets more complicated.

Older than 180 days? Fair game. A court or government agency can subpoena your provider without any requirement to notify you, per the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986.

Newer than 180 days? A warrant is required, but there are exceptions. For example, administrative subpoenas are allowed in cases of national security.

Records of incoming/outgoing calls require only a subpoena, same with cell tower geolocation data and IP addresses. However, wiretapping of actual calls requires a warrant.

The reality of how and when the government accesses your data in the real world is probably different than the laws as written, so of course take everything with a grain of salt. The best solution with text messages is at least E2E encryption so that the provider cannot store them. (Accessing messages stored on your device itself does require a warrant).