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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (3 children)

No, I'm one of those very cognizant democratic socialists who knows the difference between a tankie and neo-nazis playing dress up as leftists.

Funny thing about real socialists and communists, they hate authoritarianism too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Hexbear/Lemmygrad are extreme and authoritarian, but that does not a Nazi make.

Just call them tankies, no need to dilute the waters with Nazi co-opting of left wing concepts. All that does is associate socialism and nazism, something no real leftist would do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Curious to know your thoughts on the Communist Party of India (Maoist).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with their specific ideology. I'd have to do some research.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I did some cursory research and would summarise my findings as such:

The CPI supports the idea of socializing key industries and natural resources to ensure that they are controlled by the state and used for the benefit of all citizens. They believe in the redistribution of wealth and the elimination of private property, as well as the establishment of a classless society where everyone is equal. The CPI also advocates for democratic rights and freedoms, including freedom of speech, assembly, and press. Overall, their ideology is centered around creating a more equitable and just society through socialism and communal ownership.

Based on this understanding of their ideals I'd be very much in support of their plight, unfortunately it seems they were removed from the National Party roster earlier this year due to a lack of local support. I can't speak to the complexities of these situations or any local issues the party faced.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Idk if you read the correct party's history. The CPI(Maoist) has been banned from entering the Electoral Process since its creation as well as its predecessor parties since the 1970s and declared as a 'Terrorist' Organization. It is the only Communist Party in India engaged in a People's War against the Fascist Hindutva Brahmanical Regime. The only party which is struggling for the rights of the Oppressed in India. They do advocate for the things you described.

[–] mindbleach 3 points 2 years ago

The disappointing reality is that a lot of authoritarian dipshits calling themselves leftist genuinely believe that's how socialism is supposed to work.

Humanity's default is tribalism. It's how your brain wants to think. It's easy and satisfying and it tends to work okay. So in any ideology, there's people trying to apply that model, because that's how they believe everything works. Reasoned argument is a learned behavior and they opted out. That's hard to distinguish from someone being wrong on purpose just to fuck with you, but it is distinct, in ways that are dangerous to miss.