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The mother of Shani Louk, a 22-year-old German national believed to have been kidnapped by Hamas fighters during the militant group's surprise attack on Israel on Saturday, said on Tuesday that her daughter is alive.

Louk, a tattoo artist, was attending the Tribe of Nova music festival in the plains of the Negev Desert near Urim, close to the Gaza Strip, on Saturday when Hamas fighters stormed the event. She's believed to have been seized by the militants and paraded through the streets in the back of a pick-up.

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On Tuesday, Louk's family announced they had proof that Louk—who grew up in Israel—was alive. German news website Blick reported that her mother said she was in a hospital in Gaza with serious head injuries.

"We now have more information that Shani is alive," her mother told television channel NTV, adding she received the information from unnamed Palestinian sources.

The mother added that Louk is seriously injured, and asked the German government for help and quick action.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Was it not her in the truck then? I thought the family had positively identified her by her tattoos.Though, you really can't see much of them in the video that went viral.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Either she was just unconscious or they are lying. But it seems pointless for the latter since they'd find out eventually, unless they plan on blaming her death on one of the bombs that are being dropped in Gaza. I guess we'll see if the family gets her back.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But it seems pointless for the latter since they’d find out eventually,

well its been shown pretty clearly these baby decapitators arent exactly the sharpest tools in the shed. They were on an adrenaline high after their little murder spree and felt they were on top of the world. The next day or so and reality set in and maybe they realised they not only signed their own death warrants, but that of thousands of their 'people' and set their cause back decades. Now they are scambling like the cowards they are to try and 'fix' what is unfixable

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can you tell me why you put 'people' in quotation marks? It was surely not your intention but the implication is a pretty harsh dehumanization.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Hamas are not considered the Palestinian people at large, do not represent them, do not provide or care for them, and do not allow elections. Until this year, they have never had majority support.

Calling Palestinians the people of the Hamas government is a huge misnomer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Might i suggest putting the quotation mark around 'their' then? That would actually express what you meant.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I didn't write the initial post, but yes I agree that would've been a better word to focus on

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The IDF disspelled rumours that they found "decapitated babies" apparently. Seems that was just Twitter disinformation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Do you have a source for that? I haven't heard that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

https://news.sky.com/story/its-important-to-separate-the-facts-from-speculation-what-we-actually-know-about-the-viral-report-of-beheaded-babies-in-israel-12982329

The claim there were beheaded babies is coming from a single journalist, and the IDF has publicly refused to back up her statement.