this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2023
24 points (77.3% liked)
MeanwhileOnGrad
1390 readers
5 users here now
"Oh, this is calamity! Calamity! Oh no, he's on the floor!"
Welcome to MoG!
Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.
(caution of biased source)
Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
It's crazy dude. I've been thinking about this a lot and I just can't find justification for it. I kind of understand where the Hexbear people are coming from sometimes but then they'll have insane takes like this. They always claim to be pro minority anti government whatever but how can you justify mass murder and rape of civilians? I understand the history between Palestine and Israel and I acknowledge Israel's government has committed dozens of atrocities but there's such a massive difference between a corrupt government/military and the people living under it. People cite the festival's proximity to an internment camp like the people attending the festival even necessarily knew about it, or as if they were at all responsible for choosing the location.
Even the first comment in the screenshot is trying to minimize it by just calling it a "shooting" when there's purportedly videos of Hamas kidnapping and raping people. It just seems so arbitrary which side they're in favor of, and once they've decided they blatantly ignore any actions of extremists and brush it off as "they had it coming" for things a government has been doing long since before they were even born.
I guess it's easier to cheer such an atrocity when you're separated by an ocean and don't even see them as people, just some kind of villainous people who all hate Palestine. I'm sure the tankies would change their tune really quick if a group from Palestine, Russia, or China rolled up in their neighborhood to commit atrocities in the name of war and reparations.
Then they have the audacity to look at a similar situation via Ukraine/Russia and somehow always come to the conclusion that Ukraine are the baddies even though they've been having their land stolen for years and Russia quite literally attacked them first. The parallels between Russia/Ukraine and Palestine/Israel are so similar that it's mindboggling the tankies support one and not the other.
I genuinely wish I could understand where they're coming from but their discussions are always filled with so much hate and attempted humor that they just end up parroting their little memes and quips when talking about actual wars and genocide.
Despite their love of theory, Tankies operate on an incredibly simple process: America bad. America hate X. X Good.
America Bad
America hate Hamas
Hamas Good
These atrocities are necessary to destroy the US, innocents be damned. You can try to explain to them that if their preferred combatant won, they themselves would be executed for being queer, but they will simply ignore you. Tankies, like all extremists, are lonely people who lack friends or social life, so instead of looking inward in an attempt to improve themselves, they blame the world, latching onto communities that encourage such bigotry, that tell them that 'They're not wrong or hateful, it's the world that's wrong and hateful'