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In a shocking incident, horrific visuals are surfacing on the internet in which it can be seen that the Hamas militants are taking a semi-naked dead body of an Israeli woman on an open truck and parading in the city. It is said that the militants after attacking Israel are killing and taking the civilians as hostage. The militants took the dead bodies of the innocent civilians who were killed during the attack in open trucks and paraded them.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Anyone who kidnaps, rapes, and murders a civilian is a bad guy. Full stop.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In a broad, philosophical, humanitarian context okay, sure, maybe. However, in the specific context of a struggle were one side is trying to ethnically cleanse the other you usually have to be a dim coward to say that both sides are bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's an argument we could have but it's not the one we're having. We're talking about the specific actions of these Hamas fighters. Even if, hypothetically, they are fighting for a good cause, the way they're going about it is SO abhorrent it renders their cause moot, morally.

And don't what about Israel because I know you want to. Israel is awful and that's also another separate conversation that we're not having.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, what is your argument? So what if some Hamas fighters allegedly did something bad (although it's not apparent that they've done anything besides collect a body, probably for ransom). Did the bombing of Dresden render the struggle against the Nazi's moot? Give me a break!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

although it’s not apparent that they’ve done anything besides collect a body

There's literal video of actual kidnappings

Get your apologist head out of the sand

I mean, really. Video of them standing over the bloody bodies of children, with guns, and them celebrating, and you say, what, they were probably just out for a morning stroll? Happened across a massacre that someone else did?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They need hostages and bodies to deter aerial bombing and to strengthen their negotiating position. What else are they going to do? It sucks that civilians get harmed, but that blood is on Israel's hands because ultimately they are the aggressor and occupier.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The blood is literally on the hands of the people who did the murdering.

Get out of here with your Narcissist's Prayer crap.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago

Who are you calling a narcissist here? The Palestinians are under Israeli occupation. The Israeli occupiers put them in this position. Rather, the Narcissist's Prayer poem fits the Israeli narrative pretty much perfectly.