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What exactly is the difference between kbin and lemmy?
They're just different softwares that communicate over ActivityPub. They're both link aggregators, so they'll be similar in functionality.
For an easy comparison using established names: One is Reddit, one is Digg, but they can communicate with each other and show each other the same content, and you can just pick which one you want to use.
The Fediverse allows people to just choose the platforms they prefer, and then talk to everyone else on the Fediverse regardless, instead of having to create multiple accounts all over the place to talk to specific people.
Honestly I hope this implosion gives more people a push to move discussion somewhere that isn't monetized so heavily with awards, NFTs, and other crypto junk.
a little confused here, because on a brief perusal, it seems kbin is rife with crypto junk
undefined> Honestly I hope this implosion gives more people a push to move discussion somewhere that isn’t monetized so heavily with awards, NFTs, and other crypto jun
Yes please
One nice thing about kbin is that it isn't run by pro genocide, North Korea loving Tankies.
Can you elaborate? Genuinely. I've seen this take a few times now.
Here's a Mastodon thread with the basic facts, here's a post calling out pro-CCP moderation on Lemmy with screenshots and all, and finally here's a Raddle post with much, MUCH heavier accusations that I'm yet to fully confirm and which would make this even worse if true. Either way I'm considering Kbin more instead of Lemmy.
Do remember that the OP is on beehaw.org which is NOT run by genocide denying tankies. It just runs their software and the tankies don't have any control over that code its explained well in the docs.
Yeah that's the beauty of federation! If you don't like the team that runs one Lemmy instance, you can just find a different instance to use.
So am i
while i'm not sympathetic to lemmy's moderation i happen to know about raddle, and: it's probably worth noting that the person who runs raddle is a known, serial sockpuppeteer who has repeatedly, violently threatened and stalked users on reddit he doesn't like and used sockpuppets to troll and harass users on raddle itself. i would accordingly not consider him a particularly reliable narrator, and heavily doubt anything he has to say about anyone. he is just not a trustworthy figure in general.
And that's why I listed known facts first and that only at the end, all those claims would need independent verification
Definitely a shame to see this. But with all new communities it's important to be vigilant for that kind of toxicity, and I'm definitely gone the moment I get a sniff of it seeping in over here. Not like reddit was any better, you could barely go a week without a random subreddit being taken over by awful people.
Thanks for the in depth links. I appreciate it. That's unfortunate. With that, that's the beauty of open source and having different options for instances to join. I know Beehaw doesn't subscribe to those uh ideals. I'm also on kbin, which can interact with Lemmy and everything. I don't know - I'm still brand new to all of this.
@jherazob @OverfedRaccoon So I just joined Beehaw. Isn’t that a Lemmy instance?
It is, but not run by the same people as the main one, in fact it's run precisely by the kind of good people you'd WANT moderating your community
@jherazob That’s what I thought, and why I joined! Glad to see the confirmation.
kbin is PHP, lemmy is Rust.
I've joined both in hopes of seeing which one thrives the most in terms of users in the niche communities that made Reddit worth visiting for me, personally. So far, they seem largely similar. Points to Lemmy for having an Android app ready to go. Kbin has one in early, early beta that is (according to the GitHub) lacking in certain functionality.
You should be able to participate in any community from either though, right?
From my understanding, you can interact between the different platforms. They are a little different in their approach, and I don't fully "get" kbin just yet, but you can post to and interact with Lemmy from a kbin account.
Same principle (which is why they are compatible), but different tech and developers. Kbin also has a section where you can read and write regular hashtag-based mastodon-like posts in communities instead of completely relying on threads.
Check out https://kbin.social.
IMO the UI of Kbin is much better, although I really miss the 'collapse thread' function. That's a deal-breaker for me.