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The original was posted on /r/aboringdystopia by /u/bisexualbestfriend on 2023-10-04 15:06:06.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 10 months ago (3 children)

"Oh no, I'll have to go through someone who actually has my interests at heart and not my shitty manager! Damn unions!"

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And no, you don't have to go through the union instead of your supervisor/manager. In my union job, they'd send a witness/advocate along with someone if they had an issue where a manager was involved.

The union was corrupt, but despite that it was still the best factory job I've worked in (ok another one was also not bad but that was mostly because no one really gave a fuck about the stupid shit there and everyone just did their jobs without fucking with each other). The pay was high enough that when I was looking for something better, I realized a certification I had started wasn't going to mean more money, just different work for similar money.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yea. I had a shop steward sit in on all my meetings with management. They represent the union, it's influence, and it's contract. They make sure everyone is playing by the rules and management doesn't take advantage of an employee that doesn't know labor laws, policies and procedures, their work contract, or the union contract.

It wasn't a requirement for meeting with management, but it was something a manager could not refuse if requested by the employee. Any meeting with management would be delayed until a shop steward was available.

I was a strong advocate for every employee to have one with all meetings with management.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Yeah, Amazon is trying to present it as extra red tape everyone will have to deal with, but it's really the union will help you get through the company's red tape. The union's red tape is more about its own power structure, which will have the usual problems that go along with any kind of power, but the union still serves to balance the employer's power.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's not a guarantee they have your interests and heart, but your odds are a lot better than your supervisor having your interests and heart.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your supervisor has a duty to put the good of the company ahead of the good of the employee or they're risking their own jobs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Why don't people understand this simple fact ?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

interests and heart

Yeah, I hate it when my supervisor steals my vital organs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

It's not a guarantee they have your interests and heart

No, but it's at least in their job description to act accordingly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

That's why I advise anyone who has anything important happening to them to first seek advise from an organization that deals with worker rights, a union or a lawyer, as HR are there to protect the company, not to help you.

If they help you, it's only because that's what's beneficial to the company and their personal allegiances in the company.