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Pope Francis calls out fossil fuel companies, says climate action is too slow (www.nbcnews.com)

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Pope Francis made his strongest statements yet about climate change Wednesday, rebuking fossil fuel companies and urging countries to make an immediate transition to renewable energy.

In a new document titled “Laudate Deum,” or “Praise God,” the pope criticizes oil and gas companies for greenwashing new fossil fuel projects and calls for more ambitious efforts in the West to tackle the climate crisis. In the landmark apostolic exhortation, a form of papal writing, Francis says that “avoiding an increase of a tenth of a degree in the global temperature would already suffice to alleviate some suffering for many people.”

“Laudate Deum” is a follow-up to the pope’s 2015 encyclical on climate change, known as “Laudato Si’,” which lamented the exploitation of the planet and cast the protection of the environment as a moral imperative. When it was released, “Laudato Si’” was viewed as an extraordinary move by the head of the Catholic Church to address global warming and its consequences.

Nearly a decade later, the pope’s message has taken on new urgency.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is Latin America not important enough? How about Poland or Italy? There are even 20% of catholics in the USA. According to Wiki, there is 1.3 billion baptized Catholics worldwide - that's important enough to me. Do you really think major religions play no role on the political stage?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

15% of the world's population is ~1.3b people. You don't need to quote the same stats back at me.

Where did I say anything about SA not being important? Equally, why fixate on SA if the pope has influenced so much politically in the rest of the world?

Also we're talking about Catholicism and the Pope, not other major religions. Stop moving the goalposts.

I'm still waiting for the answer to my question.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Stop moving goalposts

You say as they address your issue and name several Catholic majority countries where the opinions of the pope sway politics far more than you're accepting.

You're the one moving goalposts on them lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Evidenced examples of that sway?

I'm still waiting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ok, abortion ban in Poland. Also the fight against lgbt in Poland - which is one reason why this news is really interesting. It can cause a divide among catholics, which can be desirable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I appreciate you coming back with an answer, thank you.

I don't understand how the Pope directly influenced the abortion ban though - what actions did he take to influence it directly?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not saying he influences politics directly, I'm saying he influences the way the vast population of worldwide catholics think. So the influence is indirect but major.

In case of Poland, I think the government feels like it's safe to go with such a radical policy because they know most of the population obliges the will of the church, which is anti-choice. The same goes for the lgbt discrimination. I think now that the pope started speaking a bit lgbt friendlier, the public opinion might start to be more divided, which will hopefully mean the topic will be less of a safe bet for populists.

Let me add that I too appreciate you discussing with me peacefully, I'm actually having quite a nice time, which is a rare experience when it comes to online politics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think we kind of agree and disagree. I think it's good that he can add influence where there is pliability in Catholics, as in Poland.

I still don't see his reach or influence being as big as say affecting meaningful and wide reaching political decisions in USA or Chinese politics though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, I agree with you that he doesn't have much influence on Chinese and USA politics, and I can see now that we both recognize there are many other places in the world that can be influenced by him significantly. We've actually reached a meaningful conclusion. This is what I imagine a civilised discussion between two reasonable people to be like. Thank you for this positive experience.