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Arrest the guy who did Maus, I guess.
Unless you can tell the difference between depicting bad things and endorsing them in real life.
But that is just the thing. Depictions of CSAM very often suggest that the victims are enjoying what is happening. This isn't about a caricature or a satire type art piece trying to hold up a mirror. OP argues against generated CSAM, because it is or would be used to satisfy urges. In this particular case, the depiction equates to an endorsement. I doubt you can be like "Hey, get your rocks off to this, but remember, its bad! But have it anyway, we're not endorsing this though."
If you think all porn says 'do this in real life,' I have terrifying news about some stuff involving adults.
Adults can consent. Children cannot. Big difference.
Adults can also be raped, and there's plenty of porn depicting that.
Yes, but adults can actually consent to being in such scenes and there are laws in place that are aimed to prevent actual rape occurring (whether or not these laws are effective or effectively enforced isn't the question and there's probably a lot to be done there still to ensure the safety of actresses and actors). Actual crimes in that way should be prosecuted and aren't okay either. A depiction of CSAM cannot depict any legal scenario at all, ever, because children are incapable of consent. Having depictions that help normalize or suggest that it is okay, is harmful.
"Protecting actors" is real life, not a matter of what's being depicted.
Does pornography depicting rape cause harm?