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Might- be worth knowing about.....

https://lemmyonline.com/comment/47545

Edit- And... (From beehaw...) https://lemmyonline.com/post/8944

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[–] WheeGeetheCat 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm gratified that a lot of the conversations over there seem to point out that you shouldn't defederate entire instances because of a few bad actors. Realistically we can't all move to a new server every time a troll shows up, and the bigger the server the more likelihood of trolls.

I havent seen the donald or exploding heads content. if I was the admin of this instance id probably want to see blatant rule breaking examples to be able to remove them. is there blatant racism and whatnot over there or is it typical stuff meant to trigger liberals?

if there is blatant racism etc, have we reported it?

[–] justastranger 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, the long-standing history of t_d's behavior, rule-breaking and brigading, on other platforms should play heavily into the decision on this one. This instance's admins should not wait until they cause issues here to prevent them from turning this place into a Nazi bar.

[–] WheeGeetheCat 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

its just a dangerous precedent in my opinion. Are you okay with similarly vaguely worded arguments being used to have your favorite community banned?

Can we do a thought experiment?

You favorite community is up for ban. What evidence would result in your agreeing to ban it?

In my opinion whatever standard you would have for that question should apply to every community.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean that community does have a history so it's not really nothing. Just cause they haven't done it on this platform doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered. If the kkk created an instance but never broke any rules I'd think they're history as an organization should be grounds for a banning. The donald is not the kkk but I still their past behavior should be considered.

[–] marmalade 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hard disagree. If people are following the rules, they should be allowed to exist.

[–] FuntyMcCraiger 5 points 1 year ago

"Hey guys, this one is totally fine with having us Nazis, let's all go over there!"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Honestly- I think its just somebody trolling.

The username sounds like a troll, and the news posts they were sending were... comically bad.

[–] drascus 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I agree with you. However there should be recourse if the wider community on an instance agrees that there is a bad actor or community that needs to be banned. I'm fairly certain if we did a poll that the community would be banned.

[–] WheeGeetheCat 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

just so you know we are rapidly setting up a community within sh.itjust.works to do just that at theagora community. There have been discussions of defederation.

I think we are trying to get some mods in place and a voting / polling process before hitting the defederation nuke / blocking communities etc

https://sh.itjust.works/c/agora