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There has been a proposal for not using replies for voting.

This is cleaner and doesn't expose everyone's votes to anyone reading the thread.

I have a notion of how this would look, so I'm creating this discussion and the replies for each option as an example. Please discuss or upvote any of the options I wrote below, and we can all see how this would look.

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[–] carbon_based 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

... aha ... now slowly i get some dissonance. You just advertised a system that doesn't count dissenting votes, therefore making it impossible to find the real acceptance of some choice. I may look into how Ranked Choice was "invented" (hey, anyone could come up with such a thing). But please stop to belittle people just because you seem to not grasp some modest complexity.
I can see for example, that not being able to rank options equally, will give an advantage to that which is listed first on the ballot. That is easy to see for me. My mind makes pictures.

[–] tcely 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] carbon_based 0 points 1 year ago

If you would want to be cooperative then you would have followed my suggestion and we would maybe have a fruitful pondering. Good day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You just advertised a system that doesn’t count dissenting votes, therefore making it impossible to find the real acceptance of some choice.

Likewise, RCV doesn't count all of the voter's rankings, making it impossible to find the true preferred candidate from the published election results.

[–] carbon_based 1 points 1 year ago

This is an old thread, so it would not really make sense to repeat all that i have posted later. In short, yes if you take the counting methods that throw out and re-arrange rankings just for the sake of getting a number above 50 "percent", as in "automated run-off". I didn't even think that someone would do such a thing because of course that would skew the result. Until i saw some (US-american what else) how RCV is ostensibly bad, which were made in a very deceptive way. Ranked Choice is a voting method, not the method in which votes are counted!
This comes from a country that elieves there are to be always only two candidates -- which isn't true in real-world situations. I suggested to count all the rankings, and to accept that there might be a minority-winner.