this post was submitted on 08 Jun 2023
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just so this doesn't overwhelm our front page too much, i think now's a good time to start consolidating discussions. existing threads will be kept up, but unless a big update comes let's try to keep what's happening in this thread instead of across 10.

developments to this point:

The Verge is on it as usual, also--here's their latest coverage (h/t @[email protected]):

other media coverage:

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[–] sprocket 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Christian should sue him for that, looks like libel to me.

I'm not a lawyer though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

doesnt that require monetary losses?

sure, he lost out revenue from the spp, but that is due to the api changes and not due to the libel. might be difficult to argue otherwise, but Im also not a lawyer

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In the US, with slander and libel, there are two standards.

If someone is a public figure, they need to show actual damages in order to be successful, this is the scenario you're describing.

If you are not a public figure, then you can sue for slander or libel without needing to show actual damages, just harm to your reputation or similar.

So the answer on that turns on whether Christian Selig is a public figure or not - I do not know the answer to that question.

[–] sedawk 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

IANAL but even though their statements are "in public" but I doubt either of them would qualify as public figures - that is reserved for politicians and such.

That being said, spez here seems to have actually slandered iamthatis. This occurred when when spez claimed that iamthatis was "blackmailing" reddit for 10M$, which incidentally lead iamthatis to post audio recordings proving that spez was lying.

Maybe I've got some of those details wrong, so correct me if I am.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

oh interesting, I didnt know there is a difference there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Christian is Canadian so the laws might be a bit different. I know a few people in Reddit mentioned that the laws would be more favorable to Christian since he’s Canadian, but I’m not a lawyer so I don’t know how accurate that is.

[–] sprocket 7 points 1 year ago

I think it can be just damage to your reputation but yeah... not sure really 😕

Any lawyers reading this?