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In leftist spaces, right-leaning ideas are challenged. In right-leaning spaces, leftists are banned and leftist ideas are censored. Why are conservatives opposed to the free marketplace of ideas?

Serious question.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Conservatives know in their hearts that they are a fringe minority when it comes to views on how to treat others.

Colbert was right reality has a liberal bias and conservatives need a safe space to pretend that the numbers are equal and that their arguments have validity.

Often times you notice conservative threads that are locked contain misinformation and outright lies. For instance they call the Russia investigation a hoax.

If reality pierces that bubble they are shown for the fools they are so they have to pretend that liberals are brigading in bad faith and not simply showing conservative views are simply invalid factually.

[–] rarely 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thanks for the reply. This sounds a lot like how AM / Talk radio works on the right as well. Leftist talk shows actually bring on interesting guests, but right wing shows always cut the mic when the guest says something thought-provoking.

I would think conservatives would benefit from having their ideas challenged. It was the main reason why I started paying more attention to leftist ideas: they are actually defensible.

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You see the same censoring on right YouTube as well. "so and so owns WOKE Trans non-binary sheep" but it's really just a clip that's cut off after their bad argument and before a logical rebuke destroys it.

[–] rarely -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That’s why there’s a comment section. These are hardly the same thing. Do you understand why they are different?

[–] mindbleach 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you think calling people wrong in Youtube comments makes Youtube less likely to spread their bullshit, I have terrible news.

[–] rarely -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who is censoring who on youtube?

[–] mindbleach 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] rarely -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You. I wasn't thinking that putting a comment on a youtube video would change the world. Just that allowing comments invites discussion, which is much more than most right-wing safe spaces. Youtube as an org has its problems, like the alt-right pipeline, but individual creators can still be roasted in the comments, and other creators can still do video replies.

Compare that to calling in on a talk radio show, where your words are cut up and used against you.

[–] mindbleach 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those comments are moderated and often just disabled.

And making them promotes those videos, through Youtube's shitty algorithms.

And chopping up damning responses into nonsense is a lot easier for video than for live radio.

[–] rarely -2 points 1 year ago

Oh sure. Also, 1 good comment in 10k generally doesn't get seen. It's kind of a bare minimum thing I am refering to. Social media is terrible but it's at least good that it's social. I am refering to the "community" aspect of twitter's "community notes" for instance. Would be great to have that next to everything really. That's what value the comment section could hold. Kind of like having meaningful discussions on a small lemmy community. It's a damn shame sometimes what content gets promoted and what doesn't. Anyway I am rambling.