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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

so weird. i'm a conservative christian. i grow a lot of my own food. chocolate milk in schools is absolutely insane and needs to be gone. the republicans stopped being my party a long time ago.

i had to write a letter to my kid's principle to stop them from giving my kid shitty candy all the time at school. wtf is up with people these days? how did people come to conflate "independence" and "freedom" with junk? kids should be getting water at school. how is this a controversial opinion?

[–] jscummy 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Have we really gotten to a point where chocolate milk in schools can be called "absolutely insane"? Chocolate milk strikes a pretty good balance between tasting good and providing nutrition, probably more than most fruit juices

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why must it be one or the other? They should both be gone. There is no "balance." Chocolate milk and fruit juice are not healthy options, especially for children. Full stop. If it must be milk, plain 2% milk is sufficient to get the nutritional benefits.

And we haven't even considered if the milk in question has been sweetened with high-fructose corn syrup.

[–] jscummy 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

not healthy options, especially for children. Full stop

I think you're making this far more black and white than it needs to be. Fruit juice and sweetened milk can easily be part of a very healthy diet. Unless you're a professional athlete, no one is watching their diet close enough for 8-12oz of juice to be an issue.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We're not talking about adults, though, athletic or otherwise. We're talking about children, and having a healthier diet in childhood gives better health outcomes as adults (e.g. forming good eating habits).

Having juice or sweetened milk on a regular basis trains your body to crave it and affects your gut health negatively. Additionally, and this is anecdotal, I can't imagine it's helping anyone's behavior in school.

And as far as "diet watching" goes, take a look at European school lunches; generally far healthier and more well-rounded than what we find in the US, all because they give a fuck what their kids eat. Plus, I can assure you many parents are watching their kids' diets as much as they can.

Schools shouldn't be confounding the health efforts of parents. This is just shilling for the dairy industry disguised as lawmaking, plain and simple.

[–] jscummy 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seems like to make any kind of sense we'd have to accurately define "healthy". Foods are healthy or unhealthy in context for the most part.

Is chocolate milk "unhealthy" compared to water? Depends what you're looking for, it has added sugar but also provides solid macros and decent amounts of vitamins.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Sure, and I agree with your premise, but at that point, why not just drink plain milk? The added sugar is superfluous on top of the lactose (plus, we haven't even covered the extra processing of the chocolate or artificial flavors that are all too common in American prepackaged foods).

But whatever the case, the politician making this "stand" isn't doing it because he wants to ensure kids get the macros they need; he's in the pocket of dairy lobbyists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

If they really want to do it right they'd get rid of dairy as much as possible. Dairy is not all that great for anyone.