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Hello everyone, I’ll try to keep this short as I know there’s been a lot going on over the last few days. When we made our announcement last week, we intended to get Reddit's attention on a subject that our team found extremely concerning. /r/Videos is joining a larger coordinated protest and signing an open letter to the admins found here.

The announcement was of exceedingly high API prices which we all know was to intentionally kill 3rd party applications on reddit (Apollo, Reddit is Fun, Boost, Relay, etc.) Since that post several things have become clear; Reddit is not willing to listen to its users or the mod teams from many of its largest communities on this matter. Yesterday all major third-party Reddit apps announced that they would be shutting down on the 30th of June due to these changes. There were no negotiations and Reddit refused to extend the deadlines. The rug was pulled out from under them and by extension all of the users who rely on those tools to use reddit.

In addition to this, the AMA hosted by Steve Huffman, CEO of Reddit, which was intended to alleviate concerns held by many users about these issues, was nothing short of a collage of inappropriate responses. There are many things to take away from this AMA but here are the key points. Most disappointingly it appears that Reddit outright misconstrued the actions of Apollo's creator /u/iamthatis by saying that he threatened Reddit and leaked private phone calls, something done only to clear his name of another accusation.

So what’s happening? The TL;DR? Effective tomorrow (6/11/2023), /r/Videos will be restricting posting capabilities. Anything posted before the cut off date will likely be the final front page of our community before we go private indefinitely. In the unlikely scenario that Reddit ownership has a sudden change of heart and capitulates on their decisions we will reopen, but until that happens /r/Videos will stay closed. Many other communities have come to similar decisions and we support those who have decided to take a stand.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I can see a lot of people moving to Lemmy, just because the other alternative that's popping off (Tildes) is a far more serious discussion-driven site.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah from what I've seen, migrating to tildes is a bit like migrating to hackernews. In theory it's a Reddit clone, but the purpose of the site is so different from how Reddit has been used that it's not really a substitute.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doesn’t Tildes also need an invite? So it’s less likely to have a mass migration.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does require an invite, although us over at Beehaw moved over from Tildes.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What motivated the move, was Tildes the place overtaken by Rationalists?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Oh snap so that “other platform” mentioned in that post is Tildes? Veeeeery good to know. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was an interesting read. This is a shot in the dark but was this community related to less-wrong (and HPMOR tangentially)? That's the only other place I've seen where it is sort of like this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm personally unfamiliar with those (had to google HPMOR actually), so maybe? Although I'm not one of the site mods, I heard no mention of these when the site was created/rising in popularity.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yeah that's also what I associate with rationalism. That whole sphere of Eliezer Yudkowsky, Roko, Effective Altruism, longtermism, the wrong kind of AI doomerism, lots of in-group terms, and really liking Bayes' theorem

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The last part made me lol. I really never understood how they use Bayes theorem to justify decision making in real life. Made me feel stupid for a while, but then most of the people I knew who were in the community didn't seem like really good decision makers either.

It feels like a cult at some level. With very technical jargon that a lot of people struggle to understand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No worries :) Likely that they might be unrelated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

From what I've heard, it needs an invite right now only as they are still kinda dealing with startup issues and trying to slow the migration a little to handle it. I don't believe that's a permanent thing but I don't know for sure

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I like HN but it's too niche for what this place and others are trying to be. I've used it a while but I don't think it's particularly relevant to people outside of the tech industry or at least broader STEM interest even though other things are discussed there from time to time.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As somebody who's generally interested in science and technology, HN also sufferers from terminal libertarian VC-brain. It's a club for wannabe founders of unicorn tech companies who view themselves as enlightened ubermench. This doesn't always bubble to the surface, but at times of controversy it is quite glaring. Most recently, when the founder of CashApp got murdered they were practically calling to liquidate the homeless, even though the incident - predictably - was the result of a personal dispute with somebody he knew.

Even if the subject matter scratches an itch, the community is not for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most recently, when the founder of CashApp got murdered

Wait....what?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Search up San Francisco CEO stabbing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did, and...wow. I don't live in the States, and don't follow the news much, but I was sure I would have heard about that....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well it's not really that important of a news story, he was killed by someone in his personal life just like 90% of murders, but rightists wanted to use it as a reason to institute anti homeless pogroms because 'San Francisco is out of control!!!'

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, right wingers being right wingers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah that’s a good point, I don’t love its politics either and I’m a fair bit to the left of most of its posters. I usually see it in the spirit of ‘you can entertain an idea without agreeing with it’ and trying to avoid staying in a place where people largely agree with me but you’re right a lot of the reactions to the murder were really grim and showed some unpleasant qualities in parts of the userbase.

On the other hand a lot of the less political content is really high quality there and on technical topics the signal/noise ratio is better than most places on the internet. I guess any site with user generated content will always be a case of ‘how much crap do I want to sift through to find a diamond?’ and a lot of the ways HN is bad can be equally applied to a lot of Reddit as well in my opinion. It’s definitely not everyone’s cup of tea though and that’s fair enough.

Edit: spelling (do we do that here?)

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Kbin is interesting too. I'm using it now. Nice UI and federates with Lemmy, of course

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Excuse my newness - how does one go about federating Kbin with lemmy? I like both, and I’ve figured out federating within lemmy, but getting kbin looped in is stumping me

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you can subscribe to kbin's communities with your Lemmy account the same way you can subscribe to another Lemmy instance's ones.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does this only work from a browser, or can one do it via the apps e.g. Jerboa, as well?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no idea how it works on Jerboa, it's still a bit too glitchy for my taste so I removed it for now and stick to the PWA on my phone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Installing a website as an app

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pwa&ia=web

using your browser, you can "install" a progressive web app. you get a shortcuts to the website on your home screen, and, at least on Firefox for Android, it opens in a window that's separate from your browser's tabs. in Lemmy's case you get notifications through it as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey what is that UI? I could use that on my instance.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's for kbin. I don't think it would work for lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, I realize I'm just going on autopilot without thinking. Because it's here, it must be the same!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't having a choice amazing?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Not OP, but yes, yes it is! This is what the internet should have been and can be in the future

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Also using Kbin, only need to get used to how everything works, and more people need to join.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I am always 1050% serial