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I just realised, I can't post anything on lemmy.ml

So, I checked https://lemmy.ml/modlog, there's a new moderator.

All posts and comments talking about China, Jinping, Russia, and Putin have been deleted and users banned

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

In my country we have antifa for antifascists. Are you here some kind of anti-tankies? Because I see far, far more posts about antitankies fighting supposed tankies than I see people fighting fascists.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tankies wpuld literally support the reincarnation of hitler if he said "america bad" they worship genocidal dictators on the sole grounds they oppose America. They hold literally no leftists values. They just like authority

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thing is, I've never seen a tankie. I've already talked to many fascists here on lemmy though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends on what subs/instances you frequent. Since the reddit migration brought a lot of liberals and centrists to lemmy, many of the tankie types have been drowned out by sheer numbers and have retreated to hexbear and lemmygrad etc.

However, there's also a decent number of fasicsts and neocons who came from reddit and are all over exploding heads, shitjustworks etc

I don't really see those users much because I don't frequent their spaces. I tend to be in more leftist spaces so I see more tankies.

And of course there was that one disastrous week or so where we gave federation with hexbear a chance and they just flung tankie shit everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, that's anti-tankie memes I see every week. Not tankie ones. It's the anti-tankies who are very active, not the tankies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're active in comments, but they're also a small minority

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

In the US, antifa vs. fascists is the actual conflict bubbling up in real life. Only online do people care about tankies. They're a test for moderation and decentralization so people can keep them from being disruptive, not a real concern for freedom of expression. Critical support for Russia's invasion (or disruption of support for Ukraine) is way more likely to come from the alt-right fascists than pseudo-left online tankies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tankies are more of a problem on Lemmy than fascists.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess you're half a fascist.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

oh yeah? Well you're a terrorist, so there, take that!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That's because we're on .world and the main tankie instances are blocked. OP is talking about leaks into other instances. It's a bad faith argument. Fuck tankies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's probably because most instances have defederated with 'tankie' instances like lemmygrad or hexbear, so all you really see is ragebait screenshots of tankies saying stupid things. although most of these posts seem to be coming from one user

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only posts I see about tankies are from anti-tankies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, like they say, because the tankie posts are blocked.

Is it really that difficult to understand?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The why is there so much anti-tankie propaganda? Like so much more than antifascist propaganda?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tankies and fascists are just as bad. What are you trying to suggest?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

I'm not suggesting anything. I'm pointing out a bias: eventhough fascism is rampant in the west, to the point there was a coop attempt in the US a few years ago. Yet people on lemmy are very hard fighting tankies where ever they can find them, even baiting with anti-tankie memes on a very regular basis.

Tankies are not treated like fascists. There is a war waged against them on lemmy eventhough tankies don't exist in the west.

Tankies don't exist in the west because, as it was said, tankies and fascists are the same kind of extremists, but in the west we have fascists already. You don't have both tankies and fascists in the same place.

So here we are, with western people on the hunt against tankies. To me they are fascists waging a cultural war on social media.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Because people aren't familiar with them and need to be made aware of what they really are. Too many people don't see the damage these trolls cause because they get blocked and only see the complaints and I'm realizing that defederation has worked in their favor. If anyone actually read the shit they post they would realize they are conservatives trying to make the left look like psychopaths. They appropriate LGBT and other social justice causes in order to attempt to infiltrate the left and rot it from within. Also, they use liberal as a slur.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Because like all true "moderates/liberals" they love attacking the left.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's mostly because pseudo intellectual "leftist" tankies are almost exclusively found online. There's no real presence irl

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These aren't leftists. They're trolls.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tankies ARE fascists! Like all communists.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So Trump is communist? Since when?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Us VS them totalitarian mentality. Doesn't matter how you call these fucks, they all are the same.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not all fascists are communist, but they say all communists are fascist

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does this even mean LMFAO

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They're using "fascist" when they mean "authoritarian" or "totalitarian".

In all fairness, there's very little difference. Communism isn't supposed to be authoritarian, but paint enough murals of someone and see what that does to their ego.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yet, but specifying this, you focus the discussion on the flaws of the left, rather than the actual fascists who are training, arming, and preparing coops in the western world, like they did in the US not so long ago.

Yet here we are talking about how communists are also fascists...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

They ARE actual fascists, that's the thing.