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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wow, it actually says "whites only". This isn't some case of someone waking up angry and tweeting about christian mingle or someshit, its actually just racist.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, racially exclusive associations are gross. Same with events that exclude attendance based on sex/gender. We are all people.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Same with events that exclude attendance based on sex/gender.

There's a time and a place.

For example, a "women's only" group may be for a group of women who are healing from a sexually violent relationship, so they really don't want to see men there.

But a parent and child group that excludes races? That just a gross kind of bigotry.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying, but bear in mind that women can be both in relationships with other women and those can also be violent.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Of course, there is nuance, but I was giving an example based on what I know exists and why.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

they really don’t want to see men there.

That's just sexism though

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

ITT: a bunch of replies to the above from men who don't get what the problem is.

Big "not all men" energy. =/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

it's reply guys galore

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The women’s only group isn’t necessary

All SA victims are valid regardless of gender

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

For example, a “women’s only” group may be for a group of women who are healing from a sexually violent relationship, so they really don’t want to see men there.

"Maybe that whites-only parenting group could be healing from some trauma caused by POC and they don't really want to see POC there."

Do you see the problem? A POC causing you trauma is not a good reason to reject POC people in general, and a man causing you trauma isn't a good reason to reject men in general either.

A group dedicated to victims of domestic violence could easily encompass both men and women who have suffered from it, whether the perpetrators were men or women. Cis & trans, it bears saying.

A person who has a blanket phobia of people of a particular gender or ethnicity needs therapy to address their sexism/racism. "I don't feel safe around men" has the exact same energy as "I don't feel safe around black people".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“I don’t feel safe around men” has the exact same energy as “I don’t feel safe around black people”.

lol how to identify a dude on the Internet

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

lol how to identify a dude on the Internet

Is that the best argument you can put forth against what I'm saying? I can give you some more ammunition: I'm queer, disabled, atheist, an immigrant and vote green. Or perhaps those are collectives that you don't feel comfortable discriminating openly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

That was not an argument, don't know why you'd think it is one.

I just found it amusing