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I should have known if the apps free, you're the product. Duolingo appears to harvest the most data compared to other language learning apps.

Source: Surfshark Research

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[–] [email protected] 192 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This is utter nonsense. First, let me point out that this is an ad for Surfshark, a VPN company. They're trying to sell you their service by scaring you.

Second, their methodology is absolutely useless, it's an easy and very common way to come up with a clickbait article like this. They're just looking at app store permissions, and assuming the app with the most permissions is bad and the one with the least permissions is good. Which is utter nonsense, it might be that the apps with more permissions NEED those permissions because they have more FEATURES.

I could make a "language learning" app that ONLY asks for the audio recording permission, and then sell audio recordings of my users to the highest bidder. But Surfshark would praise my literal spyware as "privacy-focused" because it only needs one privacy permission!

The way to ACTUALLY do this properly would be to fully audit each app, find out WHY it's asking for additional permissions, go over the full privacy policy, and do some packet captures to figure out when the app is phoning home to send data, and what servers it's connecting to. Contact the app owners, ask them why exactly their app needs each permission. Consult some experts.

But that's too hard for Surfshark, they just want to write a scary article so that they can sell you a VPN that doesn't really make you safer on the internet.

EDIT: You know why I dropped Surfshark? They started bundling a "virus scanner" in with their "privacy-focused" VPN client. So my "privacy" tool wanted to scan all my files all of a sudden? GTFO.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

A bunch of these are also utter bullshit. "Purchase history" sounds like they can go through and read your Amazon purchases or something - they can't. Diagnostic data sounds scary, but I'd rather use an app collecting diagnostic data because the alternative is a buggy mess. Them tracking what you do in their app is way more help than it is dangerous. Stuff like device ids and such are also likely only pulled for that reason or to confirm your purchases with them, etc.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

So on point! It's in these moments that I wish there was a pinning feature

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can't figure out who does more scare tactic advertising - conservative politicians or VPN companies. I swear all of them want you to believe that Russia and China are watching you personally

The visualization is also horrible. Why the hell aren't the dots aligned with the words?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Why the hell aren’t the dots aligned with the words?

Queue me, sitting here looking like an idiot trying to trace the line with my finger 3 times to find out what they're even claiming.