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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why do you think it'll overtake electric cars? The energy efficiency of hydrogen cars is significantly worse, as they introduce some extra steps in pipeline of energy-generation -> movement.

The only major advantage they have is "ICE-like" fuelling, which has a bunch of major caveats attached to it (as in: it's nowhere near as simple a system as ICE refuelling. Everything from generation, to transport to getting-it-in-the-car is way more complex and thus expensive and error-prone).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait getting in the car is more complex?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I hadn't thought of it before but it's obvious, hydrogen is a gas at room temperature, it had to be stored under pressure in order to get any significant mass into the volume of a tank. So it's under pressure in the refueling station and in the car's tank. How does it get from one to the other without boiling away?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Hydrogen is a gas, under very high pressure but you will never find it in a liquid form unless you cool it down to -250 C or so. It's not used in liquid form for such applications.

There is though the need to chill the hydrogen to about -20/-40C before delivery to the vehicles due to some anomalous properties of hydrogen respect to ever other gas known to humans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

oh there are a few ways. One group is researching turning H2 into a paste. the paste mixes with water and breaks down into water and Ca+ ions. You now have a energy density around liquid hydrogen and it only add some calcium to the exhaust. There is also storing hydrogen in metal disks.