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Climate Protesters March on New York, Calling for End to Fossil Fuels (www.nytimes.com)
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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For sure. But of the people who vote for the greens, many more would have chosen to vote for a Democrat instead.

this totally misses the point: if democrats are worried about losing to republicans, they should be trying to convince people to vote democrat instead of republican. if they're only worried about republicans getting into power and they believe this nonsense about splitting votes, they should vote for the greens.

i for one do NOT believe in this vote-splitting narrative. it assumes that the votes somehow belong to democrats and green candidates steal them. the votes belong to voters, and it's the job of parties to earn those votes, and using FUCKING ABHORENT tactics like keeping other parties out of debates or off the ballot are not how you earn MY vote. i'm sure many others feel the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They need to be worried about both losing moderate and low-information voters to the Republicans and losing left-of-center voters to the Greens.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

it's not as though they don't know the policies green voters like. they're not losing left of center voters to the greens, tehy're choosing not to attract them and instead play dirty political games.