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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People will eventually stop giving a fuck. This same shit happened in 1954 w/gay people. Gay people started suing and winning, and society moved forward.

We'll likely see the same thing. Generally, it has to get worse before things get better. Back then, it started when scientists got fed up with getting their buttholes inspected by "security" to make sure they weren't gay today (embellishing a bit here, but the gist is that they got fed up with the constant fear mongering and told the security teams to fuck off).

I'm sure we'll reach a fever pitch and then someone will tell them to fuck off, as is usual. Then everyone will forget about it, save for some older folks.

Check out the Lavender Scare: the prosecution of gays and lesbians in the federal goverment by David K Johnson. It's an uplifting book on how social movements get going and how it provides a sea change for society at large, even straight folks, in this case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Society has moved on to attacking Trans and non-binary people, gays included in this ignorant lot (obviously not all gays).

People gonna hate what they don't understand or if something makes them uncomfortable.

[–] abraxas 1 points 1 year ago

To be clear, there's 50 years from 1954 to when gay marriage was first legalized. And 40 years ago, we even thought we were done with the whole abortion debate. Don't even need to get into how long it took for people with Brown skin were legally treated anywhere near equal. BLM was how many years after the Emancipation? And still opposed by people who "want to leave it all well alone". It's a big deal that it takes that long to enact minimal change (considering we have a seated SCOTUS Justice who said we need to reconsider the constitutionality of gay marriage)

The real problem, perhaps, is everyone coming to the defense of the modder, even here. People saying "just let people do what they do" (see highly upvoted comment here). If the intolerant side "do what they do" and the rest of us get bored or sick of the human rights side, then it takes 50 years, or 100 years, or more to make meaningful change.