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"First remove the closed source vendor lock in from your own codebase before checking for license issues in your neighbor's codebase" Engineerings 5:33 (lemmy.world)

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[–] ScreaminOctopus 32 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If your cloud provider decides to screw you you're gonna have to put physical infrastructure together no matter what license their software is distributed under.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Motherfuckers out here think data isn't a physical object and that the cloud is actually a cloud.

No, god damn it, all data is stored in a medium, whether that's a book, a Bluray disc, or a hard drive. It's mediums for storing data. If you destroy the storage medium, the data ceases to exist. Thus, data is a physical object.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

suppose you already own the servers, magically or something, could aou set them up to take lour aws workload? no, you have none of the software that aws uses that manages the whole thing. You can host your applications yourself, but you're in for a big rewrite if you do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Because I intentionally design systems to avoid vendor lock-in by, at the very least, including a plan to export data and keep IaC in a repo so that it can be used to redeploy at either another vendor or colo-based servers.

Here's some good tools to do so:

Foreman Self-managed Metal-as-a-Service/VM-as-a-Service orchestrator. It's FOSS.
Terraform Formerly FOSS, now moving to BSL due to service providers taking advantage of them. IaC tooling that allows one to rapidly deploy and manage infra on multiple platforms.
Keycloak FOSS IAM platform that's pretty straightforward to use.
Talos Many choices here but I've used Talos before. It's a FOSS K8S-specific Linux distro that is designed to be platform agnostic and auto-deployed with a simple config.
Helm K8S deployment manager. Need a DB? You can probably find a chart.

There's a ton of other possibilities but FOSS and source-availabile licensed software makes it pretty straightforward (though still time-consuming as no infra is fully cloud agnostic due to non-standardization between the big three in infra primitives).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

so, how many clicks is that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That wasn't in the initial reqs. And, supposing the hardware was good to go, about the same as AWS.

ETA: The time/click savings is more likely to be in maintenance because using a cloud service is just paying someone else to do that for you.