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Dunking on Tankies from a leftist perspective.
A tankie is someone who defends/supports authoritarian or even totalitarian regimes who call themselves "socialist". The term originated from people supporting the 1956 invasion of Hungary by the Soviet Union. Nowadays they are just terminally online, denying genocides, and falling for totalitarian propaganda and calling such regimes "true democracies". remember to censor usernames when necessary.
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That’s because they’re not communists. They’re anarchist trolls making fun of everything—including themselves.
I've gotten serious pushback from them for advancing basic anarchist ideas. The prevailing ideology amongst hexbear users is not anarchist.
Yeah, as an anarchist they are DEFINITELY not anarchists.
Well, that is contrary to my experience. Most of them say tear it down and destroy it and then if it survives, fill it with communism. That’s anarchy.
Ah, I was thinking the social organizing principle, rather than the colloquial. Hexbear has very few Anarchists
Lots of lip service coming from them in that regard.
They like to talk about left unity, but all their heros sent the secret police after "left socialists" like anarchists and unionists
Their heroes are just textbook communists they throw around.
I bet if you gave each one a billion dollars they wouldn’t share a dime. Everyone’s a communist when they’re poor.
I'm starting to doubt your ability to identify anarchists.
I’ll agree it’s weaker than my ability to identify a communist. So whatever you call them, it’s not communism. It’s just lip service.
I can appreciate the desire of modern communists to avoid a repeat of how things went with the USSR, China, etc. However, I don't think you can wholly repudiate the tankies as non-communist.
Make them rich and see how communist they really are.
I mean, I guess, maybe? I think Marxism-Leninism is a fucked up ideology, but I don't categorically doubt the sincerity of MLs. They'd probably put any sudden windfall towards some sort of vanguard party centralized power bullshit that they think will eventually lead to communism, as is consistent with their ideas.
As an anarchist, I don't think that would be a good use of the money, but I don't have any particular reason to believe that they'd be more hypocritical about it than any other communist or leftist.
Everyone is a communist/anarchist when they’re poor.
Marxism-Leninism/Stalinism fell out from communism and with its purges can be considered anti-communist.
Hmmm. They're not very happy about anarchism either. Accelerationism fits somewhat if one would try to pin it but there's a diverse range of users.
As far as I can tell, they’re contrarian authoritarians. That is, they support strongman dictatorships primarily because doing so shocks the sensibilities of and upsets the people around them. It’s childish nonsense without any rigor.
Big time reactionary authoritarians. They just absorbed some Lenin somehow and are trying to be "based".
Maybe a few, but there's no reason to think that there's any more than that, let alone a majority. There's no shortage of actual tankies in the world, so why should hexbear be some elaborate ruse?
All of the ones I’ve interacted with.
Some of them hate anarchism.
1%
Please don't lump anarchists in with those Stalin worshipping crazies.
Haha. At least they aren’t lawless, letting people do whatever they want.
Ah I see hexbear has gone from alt right trolls to anarchist trolls now
They weren’t really alt-right if they love communism.
Same shit
How so?
Failure
Haha. I dunno, the alt-right has a pretty firm sweaty grip on the US right now.