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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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The Globe and Mail: "Dear entitled white-collar workers: Time to grow up and return to the office". A thousand word ode to the status-quo that can be distilled simply as "know your place you entitl... (www.theglobeandmail.com)
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Millions more workers have been called back to the office, even at traditionally remote companies such as Zoom and Amazon

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think people really missed my point, and thought I was somehow arguing in favour of poor working conditions.

My point was that the Lemmy response that “well why doesn’t the boss do this?” is not the right negotiation tactic.

The right negotiation tactic is, for example, to argue that it’s in the benefit of the company and society to improve working conditions. For example, you argue that by allowing remote working, you are encouraging not only a happier and more productive environment, but you are widening access and better able to recruit the top people.

There are lots of ways to argue for better conditions. The reaction of “well the boss doesn’t do it so I won’t either” is not a great tactic. If the boss does put in crazy hours, where does that leave your negotiation stance?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ah. It is because your first comment was vague. You didn't actually say what you disagreed with. If you had said, "Pointing out hypocrisy on its own is not a great way to negotiate. Let's try these other approaches instead or as well." then I think people would have agreed with you more.

Of course it was still peculiar that you brought up Japan, since it doesn't actually show what you wanted it to show, for reasons previously mentioned.