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Haven't started reading it yet, but its out now!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Such a shame, it looks like the lvl 19 ASI increase doesn't play well with the Barbarian Capstone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what you mean by that? You can either use the ASI to get one of those abilities to its pre-capstone max of 20, and then the capstone takes it to 24, or you use the ASI to get a feat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you were to use the ASI at lvl 19 on STR or Con to reach the increased cap of 22 then once you hit lvl 20 the ASI has been wasted since Primal Champion only raises the cap to 24.

Ideally Primal Champion would simply increase by +4 and set the cap to 30

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, I missed the fact that the lvl19 ASI specifically is allowed to break the max of 20. Yeah, that's a weird interaction. They just need to change it so that it increases both your score and your maximum by +4.

I don't think what you said would make it work with Giant belts though, they just set your strength to be that number, you're not supposed to be able to boost beyond that number.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So, Hammer of Thunderbolts says,

"While you are attuned to this weapon and holding it, your Strength score increases by 4 and can exceed 20, but not 30"

Crawford has stated that the Str boost from the Hammer works with the Giants Belts.

If we utilized a similar wording with Primal Champion then it should work with the other Str/Con boosting items.