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Hello, all! Longtime lurker on Reddit and now on Lemmy. I’ve tried looking into getting out of the US as things aren’t looking too great as I’m sure many of you know, but wanted some tips from those of us who have gotten out. Where did you decide to move to, and what were the things you looked at when deciding to move there? How did you go about the process? What are some stories you can tell about the immigration process? Where can I start? How can I realistically make it happen? I hope this isn’t silly to you all, as it matters quite a lot to me and I’m genuinely interested in getting away from here for good. Thank you all for your time!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hi! I'm sure you have a lot of feelings about the US and maybe you have a specific situation that's causing you troubles.

However, I'd recommend looking at other places in the country before looking at other places.

Moving is a huge expense, and if you lurk all the time on reddit or lemmy. You may start thinking that things are terrible, because you become emotionally invested in the outcome of a collective you can't control.

In terms of other countries, the UK is going through the aftermath of Brexit, Italy is about to elect a controversial figure, France has some questionable anti-encryption policies under it's belt. Another commenter mentioned Canadas downsides.

Looking at Asian countries like Japan and Korea, they are generally homogenous countries, and it takes much more work as a foreigner to make headway socially, with Japan moreso than Korea, to be fair. Compared to the USA, there is nary a country as diverse.

In the USA, there are many many places that can give you relative peace. Investing in local communities is much healthier than looking at huge national controversies, because usually local problems affect you more directly.

If you have the funds and resources and job security and drive to learn the language, I would say take a look at Switzerland. They're relatively stable, neutral, and it's a beautiful place there. I'd say it's still quite homogenous though.

This isn't meant to dissuade you from moving, but as someone who went through a period of depression due to the state of the country and it's affect on my life, and has now found reasons to support the US wholeheartedly despite it's problems, definitely look at quieter places in the USA, like some beach towns or mountainous towns in New Mexico.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On one hand there is a looming creep of fascism, disproportionately rasing cost of living, car-centric hellfrastructure, and everlooming threat of medical debt, the concept that is baffling to anyone from any developed country. On the other hand the encryption of your phone is regulated slightly tighter and you need to diy it if you need.
Well, I really don't know what to choose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's all it is, a looming creep that's a very loud minority. The car-centric infrastructure is quite tragic, to be sure. And the cost of healthcare is a problem. But again, there are enough benefits to staying that outweigh the cost of moving.

I don't know their circumstance. But for me, as someone who was formerly doom and gloom about some of these things. Some things that helped me was getting fit and volunteering.

After that, you could join the national guard, who will allow you to finish your degree, and you'll immediately have job security.

People complain about the nation as a whole without taking the time to see what's specifically wrong with their community and doing their part for the collective good of society.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

very loud minority

That is getting more and more power, which is the problem. And this will exacerbate all the other problems.
And I don't really think that "serving guaranteed citizenship" from starship troopers was a raging endorsement of the system