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Is startreck.website federated with hexbear? When sh.itjust.workes got federated by hexbear a few days ago, about a third of all was pro tankie memes and discussion from hexbear. They mostly stayed to their communities, but sometimes I would come across comments on memes from .ml.
No a third of posts were people complaining they saw someone that might have been a tankie and demanding to live in a neo lib echochamber, I barely saw any actual tankie talking points
I'd estimate maybe 10% of posts were responding to the 35% of posts. But that's just rough estimates. The tankie taking points were in the comments, the memes were often just saying America bad in different ways.
Oh, I guess if you count any criticism of America to automatically make somthing tankie then I guess maybe
You must not have been reading a lot of comments. It was getting borderline absurd for 2 days. They sound alright by description, but all they did was brigade the comment sections spewing crap at anyone a cm off of their ideology
I spend all my time in the comments, there were annoying pigpooping GIFs and some trash comments but also some well reasoned and interesting comments from perspectives not often expressed in popular media. It's not like the comment sections never had trash comments and nonsence before.
I agree they were some well reasoned and interesting comments from perspectives not often expressed in popular media. But they were perspectives praising Russia's and China's horrible actions that I don't really want to deal with. I gave some of them reasoned answers as well, but I would rather not see that junk daily. Thoughtful and well reasoned doesn't mean it can't also be horrible destructive tankie garbage.
Tankies really are just stupid and can't read, huh?
No I count criticism of America made by tankies specifically as a gateway into China Russia and North Korea are actually good as tankie.
But isn't that begging the question?
What do you mean? I don't automatically count criticism of America as tankie. There's lots and lots of that on all instances, and I'm all for it. I count tankie criticism of America as tankie.
But we're taking about how to recognise s tankie and your answer requires us to know they're a tankie first.
And your motion is, what? that simply holding beliefs that get you labelled as a tankie means you don't get any chance to express yourself in any way? Even if you say something completely accurate and pertinent to the conversation that's still bad?
Tankie I use as shorthanded for in favor of authoritarian 'communism.' I didn't say they are accurate and definitely not correct, just they have reasoned arguments. Yes I think it's not great to engage with them and give them a platform even if they are reasonable. It's not universally bad, and I've had some good conversations with some. It's not good for my mental health to see them and feel the need to respond. I feel the need to respond because otherwise people might become radicalized like them. Since we don't have enough time and people to answer every misinformation fully, I think we should minimize the misinformation from tankies even if it is well reasoned.