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Source: Piketty's World Inequality Report 2022

I shared this deep in a dunk thread earlier and figured there's probably many comrades who haven't seen this data. I think it's very good rhetorically because a lot of libs have an incredibly vibes-based impression that the Soviet Union was just an Animal Farm old-boss-same-as-the-new-boss situation.

Instead, this demonstrates that Russia underwent one of the most dramatic inversions of income inequality of any country in recorded history.

For comparison here is the US over the same time period:

China:

And the UK:

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

the positive correlation between the prominence of the USSR and income inequality in other countries is notable - even if you are in the imperial core, you benefit from actually existing socialism

and the corollary to that helps explain why the imperium steps on AES as much as possible - even if you are the imperium, you make less money if actually existing socialism exists

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The USSR in its prime was able to challenge the USA on a lot of moral issues that would have never been brought up by other powers. For instance, I'm pretty sure that civil rights was not able to progress as it did without the ability for the USA to be shamed into action.

That said, both China and Russia seem like they are near pre-revolution levels of income disparity right now. So, I don't know who would be the standard bearer pushing for economic equality now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

russia is no shock, but the chinese stats are disappointing. bottom 50%'s percent of income is lower than it was pre-revolution. I wonder how this squares with the milestone of eradicating extreme poverty

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's disappointing but necessarily surprising tbh. China has been doing state capitalism for a while now.

As for your question these statistics aren't necessarily contradictory to the idea of extreme poverty being reduced/eradicated. As this is basically a measure of wealth inequality, and while it might be worse than pre revolution, the standard of life is undoubtedly much higher. This is a result of China's explosive economic growth, there is simply way more wealth in China than ever before. So a higher wealth inequality isn't necessarily a good indicator of poverty. It is however an apt representation of the CCP's economic policies over the past two decades and is a good indicator that poverty will rise once China's growth slows down if wealth inequality isn't addresed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

China has been doing state capitalism for a while now.

good