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If so, was it polled somewhere?

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[–] winterayars 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. Your arguments (i.e. using multiple question marks so as to mug to the audience) are pretty fucking shameful.

I, uh, do not think you're going to get very far trying to claim the (if you prefer) 2014 Ukrainian revolution was some kind of Nazi plot. I don't really feel the need to engage further on this, I'll simply say: you are wrong.

Baby brain

Oh good, now we're doing this.

Yanukovych was couped precisely because he WASN’T leaning towards the west

Yeah, because there was a significant chunk of Ukraine that wanted to integrate more with the West while Yanukovych was a lot more hesitant. Like I said, there were two paths they could go on.

If you don’t want your civilians to be hit by rocket fire then you shouldn’t use them as human shields

This is, uh, a fucking disgraceful argument to make. Yeah you found one example of where the Ukrainian military got a little too close to civilians. Now how about the rest of them?

UN investigations have concluded the invading Russian forces have committed many types of attacks against civilians which constitute war crimes.

A few samples from the article:

The Commission’s evidence shows that in areas that came under their control, Russian authorities have committed wilful killings of civilians or persons not involved in fighting (hors de combat), which are war crimes and violations of the right to life. [...]

The Commission established a pattern of widespread unlawful confinement in areas controlled by Russian armed forces, targeting broad categories of men, women and children. Confinement in dedicated facilities across Ukraine and in the Russian Federation was accompanied by consistent methods of torture against certain categories of persons by Russian authorities.

The Commission found numerous instances of rape and sexual and gender-based violence committed by Russian authorities as they undertook house-to-house searches in localities that came under their control and during unlawful confinement...

And yes, they did find some Ukrainian war crimes were committed, but not on the same scale:

The Commission also documented a small number of violations committed by Ukrainian armed forces, including likely indiscriminate attacks and two incidents qualifying as war crimes, where Russian prisoners of war were shot, wounded and tortured.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh good, now we're doing this.

You said that breaking peace treaties isn't a valid justification for starting a war

This is after I already said you exhausted my patience with extremely stupid shit you said earlier

Why do you feel like your opinion is worth hearing if you spend zero time informing yourself to have one?