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just so this doesn't overwhelm our front page too much, i think now's a good time to start consolidating discussions. existing threads will be kept up, but unless a big update comes let's try to keep what's happening in this thread instead of across 10.

developments to this point:

The Verge is on it as usual, also--here's their latest coverage (h/t @[email protected]):

other media coverage:

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I am wondering if, based on this horrible AMA, if subs are going to either blackout early, or decide that 48 hours won't really do anything so they opt to go indefinitely.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

/r/traa's main mod said they and the subreddits gone for good after this since they're tools won't be there

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

r/ffxiv has already considered to extend their blackout period even before the AMA, so it's possible

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They need to. This AMA is just telling people that reddit is following through with their changes and telling people to deal with it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

a few communities already have (/r/TropicalWeather) because they can't run under the new circumstances so it's very possible we see a much more chaotic wave of blackouts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I've learned so much about weather through r/TropicalWeather over the years so I hope they set up shop out here somewhere.

Did a little searching and found their post on r/ModCoord, they are on Discord now for anyone else who is wondering. https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/144lox0/rtropicalweather_has_been_shut_down_indefinitely

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Reddit admins will likely just boot the mods and takeover the subreddits. Especially the bigger ones. Heck they may even do that to ones that blackout at all, or past the 14th.

They have threatened and done similar to things like firearm subreddits.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I wonder how well they would keep up with spam

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How hard would it be to nuke a sub in a way that's particularly difficult to recover from?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Couldn't really tell you. I haven't done any moderation in many years. And have no knowledge of how their DB system or backups are structured. But make no mistake, Reddit has admin rights and the ability to takeover any sub if they don't feel the mods are doing a good job, and there's been precedence for such action, either due to mod abusing and shuttering a sub, or just not engaging at all or even just going afk and abandoning a sub.

I dont think Mods can outright delete comments or submissions, only hide them. Only a user can overwrite and delete their comments. So....unless basically all users started scrubbing comments it would be hard i would guess. And i wouldnt be shocked if they had replicas or DB backups crawled at the page/submission level to roll back off of to protect such an act. Heck Pushshift was doing about that. I really detested that guy for how he handled privacy. Even had people sign up to exemptions and just straight ignored specific requests to have their user pages excluded from crawling.

[–] Br0qm 1 points 2 years ago

There's a good chance that many will not return after the 48 hours even if there are plans to. Without moderation tools it will probably just become too difficult to maintain a healthy sub.