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Joe Biggs, a Proud Boys leader convicted of seditious conspiracy who the government says "served as an instigator and leader" during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, was sentenced to 17 years in federal prison on Thursday.

It is among the longest sentences in Capitol riot cases. The record is the 18-year sentence given to Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, also convicted of seditious conspiracy, after prosecutors sought 25 years in federal prison in his case.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He’ll be 57 when he gets out so that’s a good 40+ years left for his political career.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He will get out on feb 2025 when president trump pardons all of them.

And I say that as someone that will.vote democrat, I just recognise reality

[–] ImFresh3x 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Trump won’t pardon them. He hates his base more than we do. He only pardons people who are on a level that allows to them to help Trump personally.

Also, I’m pretty damned cynical, but I still think there is less than a 50% chance trump wins. Unfortunately 49% is very uncomfortable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They tried to help him, the problem is they failed. Trump doesn't like losers who can't even pull off a coup.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He failed. If he actually wanted a successful coup he should have organised his merry band of idiots. But since everyone involved is completely feckless, Trump included, that was never going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

He might've succeeded but he needed plausible deniability. His lsckeys have gone to prison in droves but nothing has ever stuck to him because he's... Careful? Or at least his lawyers are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I believe he'd absolutely pardon them. Not because he cares about them, but because it would "legitimize" his claim that the election was stolen. Or just because it would be a distraction for people to talk about while he does whatever he wants.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

$2M was the going rate for a pardon, IIRC.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It would be useful for him to pardon them so he has a new army and people are more willing to fight for him in 2029

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I mean, Hilary Clinton had like a 72% chance of winning in 2016 ...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If New Hampshire decides he's ineligible for the primary because of his past bullshit, it'll absolutely start a domino effect of other states doing the same.

I'm not american, so I'm not sure, but doesn't that mean if he literally can't be the republican candidate if too many states say no?

I mean, yeah, he can run independent I suppose, but Trump's ego isn't just about being president. He gets off on having the GOP under his thumb. Once that goes away, even if he "wins" as an independent, would he even be able to accomplish anything?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

He'll take that to the corrupt supreme Court where all of those constitutional originalists will have a sudden change of heart just like they do when the Bible they love so much says something they don't care for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The only thing that makes me think he might not is that he could've preemptively pardoned everyone involved in this in the dead time between the certification and Brandon taking office and he didn't. Idk why he didn't, it would have cost him nothing and made people much more likely to commit overt acts of terrorism for him a second time, but he didn't.